Whenever I hear somebody moving to a Macbook and make any sort of complaint onkine, lots of people unhelpfully tell you to buy a $1000+ iPhone and that will solve all your problems, or when an Android user is “switching to iPhone”, a similar thing happens with “just use a Mac”. Why the hell do you need to purchase all the expensive devices to just use one?

Most of the time, using an iPhone, Mac, etc., does not “just work”. Maybe the UI is simply not very usable (not just Liquid Glass, see MacOS’s terrible implementation of a settings app, iOS not having an option to combine the quick settings and notifications), third-party devices (headphones, chargers, tablets, etc.) simply do not work well (no, “get the iDevice” is not helpful!), iOS having the most ass file management that may as well not exist, all the different bugs poking around everywhere (through my own experiences with iOS* and my friend’s with MacOS), etc. “Give more money to Apple to fix it” is not good advice and does not help to solve anything.

Why is it that, when Apple has inherently worse hardware, everybody seems to put up with it? On their Macs, you have 60 Hz LCD displays on a $1000+ laptop, no good ports selection unless you spend thousands more, ridiculously priced memory and storage upgrades that would be a death sentence to any other company, very shallow key travel that feels terrible to type on compared to other options, etc. As for their iPads, you have similarly not so great displays on a relatively high end tablet unless you spend thousands on a tablet with an uber-fancy M5 chip (why would anyone need that???), a keyboard case that is so expensive despite feeling like a cheap membrane keyboard you got on Aliexpress and being so top-heavy, etc. Who in their right mind would purchase a $550 set of headphones made of ridiculously heavy metal, with uncomfortable cushions, terrible battery life, mid ANC, and several year old innards?

How has Apple manipulated so many people with their marketing? I don’t really see anything quite like it in other product segments. What is the secret apple sauce?

*note that I currently run an Android phone, but I have my issues with them too that I won’t get into. My particular device is very bloated and incredibly annoying to work with sometimes, but it’s what I’ve got. On my laptop I happily run Linux, where the device simply listens to me which is a nice change of pace

edit: Actually, no, I think something similar occurs with Nintendo (in video games) and Disney (for films)

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    Yeah, I’ve had a few issues here and there across all of my devices, but most can be fixed with a restart. I’m literally the only person at work who does not have constant problems with my work Windows laptop. But I’m also the only person who shuts it down every day at the end of my shift and goes out of my way to check for updates.

    I get why folks who are more involved in their devices or prefer more customization may not like Apple products, but a lot of people just see them as a device to connect to the internet or write papers etc. and that’s about it. Folks like Apple because it works for them.

    I’m really happy there are options for people to have a device that suits their needs.

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      I get why folks who are more involved in their devices or prefer more customization may not like Apple products, but a lot of people just see them as a device to connect to the internet or write papers etc. and that’s about it. Folks like Apple because it works for them.

      Right, and I don’t get why this is so hard to grasp, if questions like OP are in good faith.

      More often than not it’s just to start circlejerking with the same argument over and over.

      I never owned Apple product but have tried it once for trial purpose, its my sister’s iPhone something a few years back before covid. I nearly barfed, not because it’s a bad hardware but because it’s just not for me.

      So for me its still Android, and google make it more and more irritating but we don’t have other options don’t we?

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        Right, and I don’t get why this is so hard to grasp, if questions like OP are in good faith.

        Because folks like OP are not asking in good faith, otherwise they would not have asked the way they did. They simply want to talk down about Apple users and feel superior to them because OP is so smart and Apple users are so dumb.

        More often than not it’s just to start circlejerking with the same argument over and over.

        This is exactly what it is. People have different preferences and priorities in their daily lives, but some folks think their preferences and priorities are superior to others and that makes anyone who doesn’t think like them a dumb idiot. You can find this type of thinking across so many different topics.

        I’m no Apple fangirl, but I’ve had this discussion with someone in my college class. Super nice guy, but just could not understand why I prefer Apple over Android. He was polite about it and asked similar questions that OP asked, but in a less obnoxious manner. We both pulled our phones out and poked around together. He still didn’t quite get it, but he was respectful and listened to me instead of being rude.

        Some people have to feel superior to others in order to feel better about themselves and I find these types of posts bring that type out.

        but we don’t have other options don’t we?

        This is the real crux of the problem!