• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    I think the problem here is people took:

    Armed rebellion

    As storming DC and something that ain’t going to happen.

    Calling the president a pedophile and the politicians who protect them is an act of rebellion

    I’m just saying if we aren’t openly armed, no one is gonna give a fuck what we say.

    10k unarmed prosters get beaten and arrested all the time, no big deal.

    Cops aren’t going to start shit with 50 people with rifles and plates tho. Whether or not there’s 10 people or 10k behind him them.

    It’s not a matter of how many people, it’s how many rifles that makes power listen, or at least pass gun control like Reagan did.

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      12 hours ago

      As storming DC and something that ain’t going to happen.

      You mean the thing that literally happened in an attempt to overthrow a fair election just a handful of years ago? That was just a bunch of morons who cared more about some lies, surely there are enough rational people to overthrow for valid reasons.

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        8 hours ago

        Ah yes the simple storming of the Capitol that required dark money funding, coordinated agitator training and logistics (quite literally bussing people in for free), sabotage of security procedures, conspiracy to abduct and hold specific elected officials, and on and on…

        AND IT STILL FAILED

        Remind me again how a disorganized rabble of randoms will do better? Sheer moral purity?

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      21 hours ago

      If you can’t escalate to focused violence against political (or at least “politicized”) targets, then your protest lacks moxie.

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      22 hours ago

      It’s true, lots of states have stand your ground laws that absolutely would apply to the types of aggression cops show to protestors. Police know this, and almost certainly would be trying to keep the event peaceful.

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        21 hours ago

        Legality doesn’t matter.

        What matter is their method of handling protests is making people panicked, scared, and making them prioritizing avoiding immediate pain…

        That literally only works on unarmed protesters, because a very large amount of people have an instinctual response to fight instead of flee. And if even one decides to fire on cops, the cops will all fire back and then so will all the armed protesters.

        It’s MAD, mutually assured destruction in the moment.

        Because of that, and cops being cowards, they will not follow orders to escalate to violence against armed protests.

        It’s their only move, and AR15s and plate carriers take that away from them.

        That’s just the reality of it. Clever signs and logic won’t help, we need to make them too scared to escalate to violence and being visibly armed is the only way to make them scared