subversive_dev

“news” could be any new information over any medium and is as old as language and gossip and culture itself

The News™ is a manufactured product designed to control the masses

Are you suggesting we should just never post or discuss either?

What percentage of retired NATObots advocate for peace and what percentage for eternal war in your opinion?

But we have to keep warmongering because Slava Ukraini…worked out so well last time

Can’t wait till they find out Putin is a lib and the West’s last friend in Russia

S-tier comrade in the posting trenches

o7

Unfortunately, that would have an adverse effect on the grift

I think maybe you’re not understanding that US literally did a color revolution in order to put the neo-Nazis in power because they wanted the war to happen.

If you want evidence that this callous logic was being employed in the west, this think tank paper from 2019 lays it out quite clearly. They correctly predict that the interventions they advocate for will lead to war and Ukraine will be destroyed. Apparently they don’t see this as a problem, as long as Russia is “extended”.

It’s all just psychopathic scheming to control natural resources. Ukraine (Russia), Iran, Venezuela, Iraq, Libya are all just manifestations of the violence they will engage in to maintain global hegemony

I personally embrace this framing.

At least until the fall of the US empire, 2nd camp has been on the right side of history almost every single time and especially lately

So I understand the point you’re making about NATO vs Russia.

Namely that the western powers deliberately engineered a crisis and neo-nazi takeover of Ukraine to use it as a battering ram against Russia?

But with Ukraine, all the events you point to are more akin to civil war/civil unrest

I absolutely do not agree. What I’m describing is literal apartheid and ethnic cleansing, endorsed at the state level both tacitly and explicitly in force of law. In fact that’s one of the main reasons we can clearly identify both the Banderite regime in Ukraine and the genocidal aparteid entity as the “bad guys” - they are doing the same crimes against humanity using the same methods.

Iran’s government has repeatedly called for the annihilation of Israel and it’s not even disputed that they provide funds for Hezbollah and Hamas.

Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas are all allies in a resistance struggle against the most evil country on earth, backed by the waning empire of the West. The colonial genocidal “state of Israel” should be disbanded and the settlers should go back to the West from whence they came.

but Russia’s stance is more tenuous than Israel’s

I absolutely do not agree with this at all. Israel is a tiny waning colonial outpost and worldwide pariah while Russia is an enormous civilizational state and natural resources superpower. However it is easy to confuse the situation when they have near total media control in the West while Russia rolls over and doesn’t even try.

Do you post this comment on every PizzaCake comic?

I also don’t even agree, it’s an explanatory tool for helping explain the difference between the top left and the top right quadrants, spurring the exact discussion we see in this thread

Decades of provocations from the West

• The looting of the former USSR by the West, which they euphemistically called “shock therapy”
• round after round of NATO expansion
• tantamount declaration of war at the Bucharest conference in 2008
• training and equipping literal explicit Neo-Nazi militias
• Euromaidan coup in 2014 (color revolution)
• Neo-Nazi militias given free rein to terrorize civilians in the East
• Legal repression of Russian language and culture by the Ukrainian state
• negotiating Minsk 1 and 2 with no intention of ever upholding it
• 11th hour sabotage of the Istanbul agreement

i like this word, so i’m going to steal it. lol

o7 yessss let’s make it a thing

If they weren’t so afraid of themselves or their compatriots being persuaded then they wouldn’t be doing all this defederation and pifedization

I’m a little confused by your comment, I think we agree?

I don’t know if I’m representative but I can tell you I was personally bread-pilled on this very website from talking with The Tankies

Persuasion is unfortunately a very long road…

Having an official government source to point to is always helpful with our dear Libs, but other than that I agree with you

We all knew they were doing it, but it’s nice to see them admitting it

Vassalage is when strategic partnership rooted in complimentary economic fundamentals

So when you lived in China, did you witness these human rights violations firsthand? Did you hear about them second hand from your contacts?

Are you another one of these people who thinks propaganda is limited to Bad Country, therefore Our Noble Liberal Democracy could never do such a thing? Do you understand that propaganda could be true or false, and is usually a mix of both?

Here’s some fun examples for posterity:

• Have your trusted media sources ever told you about the brutality of the feudal slave society in Tibet before Mao liberated it?
• Have you even been to Xinjiang? A coalition of Muslim majority nations did and found no evidence of a genocide. It’s honestly laughable. What land are they being driven from and driven to? How can the population of Uyghurs continue to increase year after year while this genocide is supposedly happening? Did you know that all ethnic minorities in China (including Uyghurs) enjoy special privileges under their system?
• How do you think the militarized police in the United States would respond to a flood of agitators literally burning police alive? Do you think they would show the same restraint as the Chinese did?