Say a friend is looking for a new system, and said person is not particularly savvy with technology, what system would you point them toward?
Linux mint
I love mint, have you tried a KDE desktop though?
Yes, they’re terrible because you can’t navigate through their settings without a mouse. Tab only goes so far in KDE. I couldn’t stand it.
I respect your opinion, but it’s not one that will be held by average users.
Stupid fucking answer.
I love Linux. I use it on multiple machines daily. It’s not for an average user.
Mint is not run by professionals. It has been pwnd more than once. It’s pretty, slightly better run than manjaro and has no reason to exist when ubuntu, fedora and suse exist.
Please stop pointing to mint as a starting place. Every level user is going to get a more secure and reliable experience avoiding mint.
Ubuntu, fedora, suse and spins of those 3. I wouldn’t put a normal user on anything else without extenuating circumstances.
From what I can find, the Linux Mint website was breached once, in 2016, for a short duration and during that time the download link for the ISO referred to a site that was hosting a version that installed a backdoor.
Meaning it was short in scope, the dev team reacted to it, handled it, and then were open and transparent about it, and it only affected people who downloaded the ISO at that exact span in time and also installed that version instead of replacing it when the announcement came.
The harsh reality of IT security isn’t that it’s a question of if you get hacked, it’s a question of when, even for multi-billion dollar companies.
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A lot of these answers were preference but this one is just incorrect.
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At this point genuinely linux. For everyday shit like browsing, mailing, whatever, for sure.
Apple is just… Apple. I guess. Windows is an ad.
Linux is the new “it just works”.
i just erased windows 11 and replaced it with Linux Mint Cinnamon- not easy for me as I haven’t used anything but apple ecosystem since forever, but I’m extremely happy with it, and the upgrade in privacy is worth it to me even if it weren’t an excellent OS, which it definitely is. you just have to be willing to learn new things
Mint and no shit.
Are we assuming this person has never used any other operating system before?
Because I do think a lot of the perception of Linux being more difficult is just because people who grew up on Windows or MacOS have gotten so used to those that the inertia of trying something new is what’s hard about it.
TempleOS
The amount of people who spend thousands of dollars on MacBooks to just open up Safari makes me want to believe the average person could just have a ThinkPad with Mint or regular Ubuntu and be just fine. But the reality is if you run into a solvable issue on Windows or a MacBook, usually the degrees of separation from someone (friend or family member) who can solve that issue is much, much, much lower. I just seriously doubt most people can conduct the bare minimum of troubleshooting to be able to even search the internet for easy solutions. Can people learn? Absolutely! Are they going to go through the trouble? Probably not.
But who knows, as personal computing becomes more expensive and system requirements stop people from updating. Maybe more people look to Linux as an alternative and perhaps we’ll reach a critical mass where my previous statement doesn’t matter.
thousands? the browse-the-net macbook air is $999
Sure, but there are still plenty of people who buy MacBook Pros regardless of their actual use cases, simply because they think the laptops will last longer. Anecdotally, I’ve tried to stop at least three friends from making that purchase.
If they are not savvy enough to do troubleshooting themselves or have no one to ask for help, I think macOS would be the best (assuming money isn’t an issue). Otherwise, Linux Mint.
There’s a rule you should learn. Never ever recommend Apple shit to people.
“Your opinion is wrong”
Absolutely, that’s par for the course for anything Apple.
You’re a good little Genius™.
I’m a Windows hater, but I can’t in good conscience recommend Mac because of the vendor lock-in, and I’m not going to recommend Linux to someone just needing a computer to use when they need it.
Let’s not joke ourselves. I would, however, offer to install Enterprise LTSC and disable as much of the telemetry as possible. After that point, their privacy is in their own hands, but I’ll offer as many tips as I can.
If they are even slightly technically inclined and I know them enough to know they are capable of any level of troubleshooting, I’d recommend Mint.
In what way do you define “just needing a computer to use when they need it”?
I have several family members and friends who know absolutely nothing about computers. They all use Linux and the amount of IT-support needed has never been lower.
I’ll just fucking say it. Windows. Maybe Mac if you want, but that’s gonna cost a fair bit more. Skip Linux. Everyone here circlejerks it like it’s the best thing since 3.25" floppy drives, but it’s a pain in the ass for the above average user, let alone someone who isn’t tech savvy. The first time they encounter a problem and have to open the terminal they are going to shut off their computer and burn their house down. Unless your friend wants to learn Linux, then I’d advise you to steer them clear, regardless of what the crowd here has to say about it.
Windows is clean and simple. People here will say otherwise and they’ll point to strawman arguments that don’t have anything to do with the average user, like user telemetry or shutdown/restart on update. Windows wouldn’t be dominant if it wasn’t user friendly. If my grandfather can figure out how to install his bible verse software on his Windows PC, then your friend is going to be just fine.
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the reason why windows is dominant is for a few reasons. One of which is the fact that it’s THE enterprise OS. So what people use at work, they’re gonna use at home. they’re going with what they know.
And it wouldn’t be in that position if it weren’t easy enough to teach to the least tech savvy person on the planet.
i don’t believe mac is less user friendly than windows. It might even be MORE user friendly. Why don’t people use mac?
Apple is pure shit.
Windows. If you do anything work related, you need to be able to use excel and word. It’s still annoying shit, but it works and it’s more stable/easier to use than linux. I have tried both. I say this with poison spitting out of my mouth, because I don’t like the Microsoft AI and forced advertisement shit, but overall, the OS performs better, because desktop linux still has massive problems in 2026.
The linux community may claim that you can “do anything” on a linux system and “make it your own”, but if you’re not a 24-year-old tech god who can code, it’s unfeasible. I tried several times to go on forums and ask for help regarding certain customization changes. Sometimes I got help, but it was very complicated. Most of the time, nobody answered in those threads or if they did, they blamed me for the “problem” and wrote stuff that didn’t help at all. At some point you gotta go: Okay, this is nice and everything, but I want to play or work at some point and this is not capable of doing at least one of the two. And there is no official tech support to help you out if you need it. When I simply wanted to create 1 bug report, I had to create 4 different accounts on different bug report websites and they all got closed, because “it’s not my department” or - I shit you not - “it’s a serious problem and bug, but I don’t have time to fix it”.
I tried Linux Mint Cinnamon. The installer was so fucking shit, that it didn’t recogneize the hard drive and therefore - without warning or telling me where it would install - tried to install itself on the very same USB-stick the install files (.iso) were on, erasing the install files in the process and crashing the entire install, while temporarily bricking the fucking system. The promise of “games are working now on Steam/linux due to Proton compatibility overlay” are greatly exaggerated. I tried starting about 15 games and of those only 2 would even start up. If you would post on the discussion forums, other (linux?) users would just respond with “but it works for me”. Well, gosh, thanks you piece of shit, but that doesn’t help me identify or fix the problem. And trying to run Word or Excel? “Oh man, you need a virtual machine just to run that, bro! You can’t run it natively, because xhgaoohofa. Who even needs that, bro? Use LibreOffice, bro! It’s enough, bro!” It’s fucking shit. Get it running, I need to work. And your 500 shitty fonts in LibreOffice won’t convince anyone that you’re a professional. I want fucking Times New Roman and Calibri out of the box, because that’s the standard for my office work, sorry.
Using Waterfox was a shit show. It’s faster than regular Firefox, but then it proceeded to delete all of my passwords by default every time I closed it, without asking whether I wanted to do that or not beforehand. Then I had to find the fucking hidden option to disable that. I did. But this piece of shit software has a bug. So it ignores that I selected that “hidden” option and continues to delete all my account data and passwords. And linux bros will be like: “Oh, that’s your fault, bro! Our linux programs have no bugs, bro [despite it being listed as an official bug on the fucking GitHub page - but they don’t read that]! You have to use an external password manager, bro! It’s totally safe to insert all your account data into a program from an unknown software developer without back-ups, bro!”
I can’t even change the fucking window closing button design in linux mint without changing the theme of the entire fucking system. The buttons on there are MacOS-inspired and fucking tiny. I want easy to click big boxes like on Windows.
I still got that linux laptop, but I rarely use it, because everything is a fucking chore or doesn’t work out of the box. The update manager - now that thing is GOOD! But I just want to set it to do update shit automatically and I can’t. So every time I use this fucking system, I have to spend my time on authorizing those fucking update installs with my password manually.
Then there is the forking issue. There are 100000000 distros, because the developers are autistic, antisocial shitheads who don’t understand that 1 distro with more integrated customization options would be sufficient and more efficient. So they all want their own distro and create a confusing mess where nobody understands what’s happening anymore except for a few IT guys who can troubleshoot the shit they’re fabricating on a regular intervall. What if I want to work AND game on the same system? I don’t want to choose between linux mint and fucking bazzite. I want the functionality of both in one system. That’s what Windows has managed to do for over 30 years now. Get your shit together. Same for the support. When I have a problem with the Linux Mint install launcher, I have to be redirected from Linux Mint support to fucking Ubuntu support, because the launcher is actually fucking Ubuntu and then Ubuntu redirects me to a special Ubuntu launcher support site where I have to file another report and then the developers/maintainers there redirect me to their personal GitHub page to file another report with another entirely different bug report form there only to tell me afterwards that s/he has no time to fix it, even though the bug is legit and then CLOSES the bug report. Excuse me, but get 1 (!) support website please and redirect reports INTERNALLY. I will NEVER file a bug report for a linux system again, that I can tell you. Go FUCK yourselves, linux mint developers!
And I don’t understand the fucking hype of all these idiots around Steam. Steam is not open-source, it’s not free (you have to buy the games with a big fee % for Valve). It’s a multi-billion dollar for-profit, closed-system, privately owned company that has said “fuck you” to everyone who wanted Half Life 3 or the next Left 4 Dead for years. Despite having BILLIONS of USD at their disposal to make it happen. Don’t get me started on fucking kid gambling with loot boxes and microtransactions in Counter Strike etc. Fuck these idiots! The dominant gaming market and launcher should be free, open source, non-profit and owned by everyone. I don’t want to finance another yacht for Gaben. I want to finance more games, compatibility updates, optimized hardware drivers, remasters of retro games and so on.
To be honest, I hate a lot of todays technology industry and I have good fucking reasons for it. Computers were made to make our lives easier, but all they have managed to do is to make many people more socially isolated and working on them more of a chore than the original fucking paper work. Prove of that? You’re currently reading a piece of fucking text of a person who you don’t know instead of talking to a friend in person. Probably in a darkened room cave so that the light doesn’t interfere with the screen brightness.
EDIT: If you downvote my comment, at least have the balls to comment why.
Dude, your comment is about a decade out if date at a minimum.
but then it proceeded to delete all of my passwords by default every time I closed it
- That’s not how password databases like BitWarden and 1Password work.
- On the razor-thin possibility you are still using the browser’s internal password store, quit being a moron. Those are trivially crackable by browser malware, and there are many thousands of script-kiddie browser attacks that go after this store. You would have better security keeping passwords in an Excel spreadsheet, or on paper.
Honestly, I can’t understand how browsers are still allowed to store passwords in 2026. That functionality should have been torn out of them half a decade ago for the massive security flaw that it is.
That’s not about BitWarden or 1Password. That was about the password storage system integrated into Waterfox. And no, they are locally stored and relatively safe. I have used that system for 20+ years and I have never had any of my account data stolen.
And I do actually keep them separately and on paper. Laught about it if you want to, but it’s easy and most reliable. I’ve had pc’s die on me, so I’m happy to have it that way.
Why would you trust companies like BitWarden or 1Password? It’s the same as with EncroChat or similar services. Agencies start up a company that promises to protect your sensitive data. Then you give them your sensitive data. But they put a backdoor into their programs. So now they have all your sensitive data. I don’t know who is behind those companies so I don’t trust them. With Mozilla, that’s just an old habit and nothing of essence is in there.
I have a different way to do it, but I’m not going to disclose it here. Just saying that in the last 25 years, not a single one of my accounts got hacked by my fault. I had 1 Ubisoft account hacked, but that was because their servers got hacked and the password was stolen from there.
Why would you trust companies like BitWarden or 1Password?
Because they are end-to-end encrypted, as evidenced by their account-recovery mechanisms: they cannot offer one.
Why? Because the encryption on your data files is based - in small part - on your master password. So if you cannot get back in with your master password, they can’t get in without it, either.
The only exception is corporate accounts, which are linked back to a master account made by your employer, which has rights to access anything in your specific account and who can expose company-wide accounts to you based on groups and rules.
Plus, BitWarden also has the capability to entirely self-host, keeping their public servers and domains entirely out of the loop. It’s just between you and the server you configure yourself.
But they put a backdoor into their programs.
LastPass had a mere security breach, and they suffered a 50+% market share drop between 2001 and 2024. An active backdoor would drive any company to 0% market share damn quick, which in business terms is called a fatal level of risk – a business killer for anyone in the security industry.
Bitwarden, in particular, has openly committed itself to fighting any attempt to legislate a back door into their product, and - like other companies like Signal - would rather exit an entire market than build a back door into their product.
And I do actually keep them separately and on paper. Laught about it if you want to, but it’s easy and most reliable. I’ve had pc’s die on me, so I’m happy to have it that way.
Wow.
I’m not laughing… I feel sorry for you.
I put the mention of Excel and paper options in as a dare from colleagues. They didn’t think you would out yourself as such a security anti-intellectual.
For the record, not only can you script secure BitWarden exports to your storage enclave of choice, but you can even script exports to KeePass for offline access.
Granted, with an export to KeePass there are things like ToTP and secondary/tertiary URLs that won’t come along for the ride, as it’s not something that KeePass does, but most everything else will.
in the last 25 years, not a single one of my accounts got hacked by my fault. I had 1 Ubisoft account hacked, but that was because their servers got hacked and the password was stolen from there.
X-Doubt.
Ubisoft did not store their passwords in plaintext. Those passwords were all hashed appropriately.
If your password was successfully un-hashed and used, it was because either,
- You re-used a password from elsewhere that had previously and unknowingly been exploited, or
- It was simple enough to un-hash by itself, or
- It was represented in a rainbow table to be trivially un-hashed.
In all three cases, it’s user error on your part.
Check it out, it’s wild. Betchya more than just Ubisoft will pop up.
SteamOS is open source.
Proton is open source.
Steam the game platform is closed source.
Hopefully it is obvious why open sourcing a payment processing application with tens of millions of user and bank accounts tied into it would be highly problematic.
You might as well be demanding PayPal or Epic Games Store to be open source.
There are 0 games I have that do not work on Proton.
This is because I don’t play games with rootkits.
You may have heard these referred to as ‘Kernel Level Anticheats’.
They’re rootkits, and nearly every single major anti-cheat system that exists has at least one game where its been made to work with/on linux.
All game devs that say its too hard or impossible to make AC work on linux are incompetent or lying.
I have absolutely no idea how you managed to screw up Waterfox, I’ve been using it for like a year + with 0 problems.
I’ve never encountered any behavior from it like what you describe as a default setting.
I have never had to write any code to get … I don’t think any version of linux I’ve ever used, to work, as an OS.
… what… specifically, is the ‘functionality’ of both Linux Mint and Bazzite that you apparently only get out of one or the other?
Like genuinely, what does that even mean?
I play games on Bazzite, and I’ve also compiled 03DE from scratch on Bazzite, I tinker around in Godot and Blender and various other dev tool type things regularly.
It is entirely possible to work and play on either Linux Mint or Bazzite.
With LibreOffice, yeah, you don’t get all of the proprietary Windows fonts directly out of the box, but uh, Bottles is a neat flatpak that rapidly sets up a Windows environment, with a GUI, and its a few clicks to add the ‘all fonts’ dependency, snd then voila, you have your proprietary fonts.
What you almost certainly are is a jaded Windows poweruser who expects non Windows operating systems to function and be tweaked and follow the same paradigms as Windows.
They don’t.
They are different operating systems.
They work differently.
Applying your Windows based intuition will lead you to break things.
Hopefully it is obvious why open sourcing a payment processing application with tens of millions of user and bank accounts tied into it would be highly problematic.
It wouldn’t be. In fact, it would be a lot safer, because there are more eyes on the code. You have to control the code integration authorization process obviously.
You might as well be demanding PayPal or Epic Games Store to be open source.
Okay, I demand it. What now?
There are 0 games I have that do not work on Proton.
Well, I have 13 out of 15 games that do not work on Proton, Proton Hotfix and Proton Experimental. And none of them are multiplayer or rootkits. And as you say later, you’re on Bazzite, not Linux Mint. But of course you’re the center of the universe, so all you say must be right and universal, my lord? It’s impossible for other people to have a different experience and problems with the system, right?
All game devs that say its too hard or impossible to make AC work on linux are incompetent or lying.
Who gives a shit about what the devs say. For me only the end result counts. My games either run or they don’t. And currently. 15/15 run on Win11 and 2/15 on Linux Mint. That’s just how it is at the moment. That’s reality. I don’t like it either. Sorry, not sorry.
I have absolutely no idea how you managed to screw up Waterfox,
See, this is exactly the kind of “IT WAS YOU, MY PROGRAM IS FLAWLESS!”-behaviour of linux users that I was referencing. You’re incompetent, ignorant people who can’t admit if there is a problem with a program. The bug is/was listed on the project page by the way, but of course you were too fucking lazy to check.
I’ve never encountered any behavior from it like what you describe as a default setting.
Well, that doesn’t mean it’s not happening, you incompetent hack. Someone can have a motor failure or a flat tire on his car, while your car still runs fine. Doesn’t mean that’s the driver’s/user’s fault.
It is entirely possible to work and play on either Linux Mint or Bazzite.
You just said you only use Bazzite. So how would you fucking know whether it works on Linux Mint or not?
With LibreOffice, yeah, you don’t get all of the proprietary Windows fonts directly out of the box, but uh, Bottles is a neat flatpak that rapidly sets up a Windows environment, with a GUI, and its a few clicks to add the ‘all fonts’ dependency, snd then voila, you have your proprietary fonts.
Yeah, I’ve heard that “just a few clicks” bit a bit too often from linux users now. I don’t want an extra Windows environment. I want the program to fucking work natively. That’s why I’m saying that Windows is easier to use now. That you’re emphasizing the “proprietary” part just shows how fucking salty you are that it’s not integrated into LibreOffice. I’m sorry, but my law firm uses that font and that’s how it is. They’re good fonts. Not everything you don’t like is bad.
What you almost certainly are is a jaded Windows poweruser who expects non Windows operating systems to function and be tweaked and follow the same paradigms as Windows.
Oh my! I expect an OS to function! And to be improved! How horrible and arrogant!
You know, I WANT TO switch to linux, because I don’t like Microsoft either. But the linux desktop environment doesn’t offer the same native functionality and comfort that I need to switch my main pcs to this OS. I don’t wanna deal with the problems. And to be honest: I don’t want to deal with people like you who blame every problem with the system or programs on the user. Keep seething. I will switch when I think the time is right.
Holy shit you need to calm down.
It wouldn’t be. In fact, it would be a lot safer, because there are more eyes on the code. You have to control the code integration authorization process obviously.
Uh.
No.
If you fully open source an entire payment processor app, a competent coder can rather rapidly figure out how to reverse engineer its security mechanisms and then develop exploits and then do fraud and identity theft and money laundering.
Sure, there is ‘open source banking/finance’ as a movement to open source and standardize various APIs to increase integration of certain segments of banking, but… you can’t have a fully open source financial system that goes all the way through all of its security and accounts and such, 100% of it, unless you switch everything over to some kind of crypto currency.
… which has a lot of its own complications and problems.
Okay, I demand it. What now?
Well that’s a very silly thing to say, which further showcases that you don’t really understand the things you are complaining about / frustrated with.
Well, I have 13 out of 15 games that do not work on Proton, Proton Hotfix and Proton Experimental. And none of them are multiplayer or rootkits.
Which ones?
Whats your hardware?
What even is your actual OS/system setup?
Maybe we could try to troubleshoot them, instead of screaming?
But of course you’re the center of the universe, so all you say must be right and universal, my lord? It’s impossible for other people to have a different experience and problems with the system, righ
I didn’t say any of that, but ok.
See, this is exactly the kind of “IT WAS YOU, MY PROGRAM IS FLAWLESS!”-behaviour of linux users that I was referencing. You’re incompetent, ignorant people who can’t admit if there is a problem with a program. The bug is/was listed on the project page by the way, but of course you were too fucking lazy to check.
I again didn’t say that.
I said I’ve never had a problem with it, I have not encountered the problem you encountered.
You maybe wanna … link to bug?
There are lots of programs with lots of ongoing or closed issues and bugs with lots of software.
I can’t tell whats going on with your setup and your problem because you’re sceaming like a lunatic.
Well, that doesn’t mean it’s not happening, you incompetent hack. Someone can have a motor failure or a flat tire on his car, while your car still runs fine. Doesn’t mean that’s the driver’s/user’s fault.
So again, chill the fuck out, I never said its not happening or didn’t happen.
Realize that you’re angry and confused and enraged and lashing out at people making neutral statements, because you’re attributing meaning to them that is not present.
Like, you’re the reason why IT support people have PTSD.
You just said you only use Bazzite. So how would you fucking know whether it works on Linux Mint or not?
No, I didn’t.
I said I am using Bazzite right now.
I’ve been using some kind or another of linux for almost 15 years.
I am by no means an absolute expert on all things linux, but I do have a fair deal of general linux knowledge as well as more specific knowledge with the linux distros and applications I’ve spent more time using.
I just asked you to actually identify, describe the things that you want to be able to do, that you think are only doable on either Mint or Bazzite.
Maybe there legitimately are some things that are much easier or more difficult to do on one or the other!
I don’t know which though, because you are again, extremely hostile, confused, and screaming like a madman.
Yeah, I’ve heard that “just a few clicks” bit a bit too often from linux users now. I don’t want an extra Windows environment.
… ok… then… don’t expect to be able to run too much Windows programs/features/content on linux.
You realize that WINE or Proton… are windows environments, on linux, right?
I want the program to fucking work natively.
Badically no .exe or .msi or Windows specific program will run on linux natively.
You… have to set up a windows environment, a set of translation layers, like WINE and Proton or the Soda variant that Bottles uses… to do that.
That you’re emphasizing the “proprietary” part just shows how fucking salty you are that it’s not integrated into LibreOffice.
No… I am emphasizing that because it is a highly relevant factor in explaining why/how open source software legally cannot freely bundle and distribute other kinds of code that they don’t have the IP/Copyright/Patent/Trademark rights to.
I’m sorry, but my law firm uses that font and that’s how it is. They’re good fonts. Not everything you don’t like is bad.
Evidently your law firm doesn’t do much work around software IP law.
I also never said the fonts were bad, you just made that up.
Like… yes, what you are describing here, not having out of the box support, in LibreOffice, to open a .docx file and have all the supported fonts, yep, that is a legitimate problem for apparently your intended use case.
Generally, in an office/productivity context, its a good idea to make sure all the stuff you are going to be using frequently is compatible with each other… before you make a significant change over to a different program for a core part of the workflow.
People get paid 6 or 7 figures to determine the best way to go about doing that… I guess you just thought that such due dilligence wasn’t a relevant factor for your personal situation.
I would attempt to find a solution for you, but you’ve already said that it needs to just work natively, or its worthless, and I’m not aware of any solutions to your scenario that just work natively, given the other preferences and constraints you’ve indicated.
But the linux desktop environment doesn’t offer the same native functionality and comfort that I need to switch my main pcs to this OS.
They do, but you’re confused and uniformed and very angry, and:
I don’t wanna deal with the problems.
You do not want to have to humble yourself and realize how much fundamental, core ‘knowledge’ you have that is either wrong or missing.
And to be honest: I don’t want to deal with people like you who blame every problem with the system or programs on the user. Keep seething. I will switch when I think the time is right.
… Yes… I am the seething one here.
Not the extremely the extremely hostile and confused person.
For a person who works in a law firm, you’re shockingly bad at communication and image management.
MacOS if they can afford it. Otherwise Linux Mint.
There’s a rule you should learn. Never ever recommend Apple shit to people.
Why is that? I love my Linux PCs but you should not underestimate the mental barrier of considering Linux as a new user. Starting with Mac OS is like a soft start into it. And the apple silicone machines are powerful af. I use one as ML server and it performs well. Oh and the privacy by design is still pretty good in Mac OS.
Overpriced, idiotic design, idiotic UX, whit UI, anti-repair system.
said person is not particularly savvy with technology
Maybe the rule to be learned is read the post.
So you’re saying that it’s a good idea to give an overpriced, non-repairable, underperforming, shit looking, shit behaving, toxic corporate assfuck trash system to a person who’s not tech savvy.
Are you part of some big brain trust?
MacOS
There’s a rule you should learn. Never ever recommend Apple shit to people.
Is this some kind of a bot?
Check for yourself Schluppi. You seem a bit lost online.
There is another rule you should learn too: don’t showcase your Apple envy more than twice in the same thread.
See, there’s the face of the fanbase. Poor people think Apple is expensive. I gave away my Macbook after a few weeks because it sucked and because I can 😏
It’s important to protect potential customers of becoming like you.
My Fedora/KDE setup is superior in any regard. The only thing Apple is better at is screwing their idiot buyers.
His Apple hatred knows no bounds.You mean corporate hate?
Keep sucking off your overlords.
As a Fedora user - Apple has better security. Linux doesn’t do everything better.
The French call that «l’issue du skill». Privacy and security start in your mind.
I said security. Privacy is related but different.
And you know that the answer is the same ;)
Apple users are the easiest to scam because they … well, bought Apple.
MacOS.
I hate Apple, and I do not like how they operate. But I cannot deny how user friendly their OS is, how affordable their machines are (Mac mini) and how even those who do not know how to use a PC, can pick them up and use them.
Linux Mint is my second choice
Only Linux which feels like a normal PC, and 99% of features can be installed via UI. There are holes, and I feel an immutable OS would fill this niche better, but for now this is my number 2.
I literally installed mom and dad’s Mac mini yesterday. They need to be able to run commercial software. Moving to Mac was foreign enough for them, I don’t think people in their 90’s would do well with Linux. I will, however, work on getting my sister onto Linux. We will see.
I fell with the right desktop environment like Plasma and a locked down OS that can be used without a password, Linux can be for all. Especially when it comes to using it as a web machine. If they don’t need apps, it’s fine.
Mac’s are my go to if you need commercial software. And the one pain point for Linux as a OS.
Though Valve is bridging the gap
Do they not have iPads? Every old person I know has an iPad they are glued to. If they are used to that, they can handle macOS
