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    4 months ago

    Flawed rhetoric. Tech bros read Lord of the Rings and think “Sure, those guys got corrupted by the ring, but I could handle it.”

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    Showed up here a month later. The link is dead. Can anybody find this again? I already looked on the web archive. It’s not there.

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    It’s important to know, I feel like, that the Curtis Yarvin acolytes like Peter Thiel know about Tolkien lore and think he simply took the wrong perspectivein writing his tales. They actually think Sauron was a hero and represented the right side of history. They are that fucked up, morally and ethically.

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    There’s more parallels when you consider Tolkien was writing a critique of industrialization. Evil wasn’t just represented by the One Ring, but also mining too greedily and too deep, cutting down all the trees, poisoning all the water, etc etc.

    There’s smoke rising from Isengard these days because they fired the coal plants back up.

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    Tolkien predicted the failure of marketed AI? I’m not surprised, it’s a product of human industry and progress, something he was critical about.

    I say marketed AI as it’s not really AGI, even though it’s sold that way. The good/bad news is that actual progress in AGI will have worse results, and current AI is just demonstrating the issues that will crop up without the faster pace and worse destruction AGI could possibly bring. (See the AI alignment problem for details)

    But hey… we learn lessons from history, right?

    Right??

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      I say marketed AI as it’s not really AGI

      “it” - being machine learning - is not even AI. Only dumbfucks believe that garbage marketing BS.

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        It objectively is, same as OCR and fuzzy logic.

        It’s just that when people hear “artificial intelligence”, they think of Lt. Cmdr. Data and not the actual field of research that machine learning is a legitimate part of.

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          The problem is that the term being used is alike to saying “bread” when referring to pancakes. If this branch of IT was run by sane people, I might not even take such issue with the label. But there’s nothing wrong with labeling it machine learning, and all the credible applications do just that, be it for medical analysis or for other targeted applications. The only morons insisting to call machine learning “AI” are the LLM fuckers. And the only thing that is “AI” about LLMs are the input and output filters, which have are coded with actual, deterministic rules (or so I suspect). LLM companies are snake oil vendors, and the users are all helping them ruin the planet, politically and environmentally. And the users need to understand that, or they’ll contribute a big part to running us right into the ground. So when someone says “AI”, and means machine learning systems, they need to understand there is absolutely nothing “intelligent” about them. Because people are gullible and if the output sounds impressive enough, they - and you can observe that every minute in the real world - they actually believe the software has an understanding of what it is saying. It doesn’t. You know that, I know that, but most of the dumb users using LLMs do not. And they need to be reminded every minute until they stop fucking around with it.

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    Along a similar line, guy makes a global surveillance company and calls it Palantir, apparently oblivious to how much of a comic book villain he looks like. Thiel looks at Sauron like “that’s so meee”.

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      Palantir. The network of seeing stones infamously compromised by just one bad actor. Drove a man completely mad with depression and doomsaying.

      Yes, let’s name our security surveillance company after it.

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    The funniest thing is a security company called “Palantir”. If they had actually read the books they’d know how ironic that name is… Or ironically on point.