moody in the 4th book: “You can’t dodge the killing curse it wont work undodgeable only harry survived it for some fucking reason maybe magic”
voldemort aVaDa KeDaVrA
harry expelliarmus
harry somehow escapes “ayyy its magic”
Well no surprise there, Harry was essentially a jock who only excelled in two things:
- magical self defence
- sports
And he was good enough in magical self defence that he took down the biggest baddest wizard with just the disarming spell. Literally a magical “put yer gun down”.
He could’ve gone into sports but hey, he just finished off the “big bad” shortly after he turned 18, so of course he’d chase that high. Especially when his girlfriend went into sports and they could hardly both play, that would be constant tension.
So yup, he went on to be a cop. And I see a lot of people claiming that ooh, the wizarding world is different, the police aren’t sent after innocent people, their justice system isn’t rigged, there’s no discrimination, yada yada… Hello??? Magical SAPIENT creatures are routinely enslaved, Dumbledore, someone people thought to be above reproach, was constantly accosted by the very same cops, Harry himself was accused and dragged into a kangaroo court over DEFENDING himself, the aurors have proven time after time that most of them are just as ineffective as the typical Murican doughnut-muncher mall cop, and about discrimination… “mudbloods” need a reminder? Or how Filch is treated?
The wizarding world is the last living remnant of the elitism of the British monarchy/nobility, and if you don’t see this, you lack practically all comprehensive reading skills. Put down those rose tinted glasses and read Harry Potter while paying attention to the social narrarive. It will open your eyes.
I always found it real interesting how as soon as the Hitler parallel takes over the government and turns it into a fascist state that all of the magic cops just immediately do what he tells them to. They all line up and go along with it. No I don’t mention that for any particular reason…
Fred and George did it best.
They gave the biggest bitch in the history of bitches the middle finger.
Literally exploded out of Hogwarts.
Opened their own store which sold items that only had disturbance in mind.
Returned to Hogwarts only to participate in civil war.
Dont forget that they voluntarily participated in the Battle of the Seven Potters, and George lost an ear in the battle.
And they also established and operated a pirate radio station that undermined the wizard-nazi propaganda by delivering the truth to the masses, and brought levity and unity to those involved in the resistance.
The twins were real ones.
His becoming an Auror made no sense. McGonagall pressured him to think about what he wanted to do in the future in his 4th year to plan out the rest of his education. Auror was his very first idea, and he wasnt really even super into the idea then. It seemed to be mostly out of a sense of admiration for Mad-Eye Moody specifically. And then, despite finding out that Moody was in fact a Death Eater trying to kill him the whole time, somehow that didn’t taint his opinion on the Auror thing at all.
Even though it was just the first thing to pop into his head, he never gives it any sort of critical thought or even comes up with any alternatives. He doesn’t even have an understanding of the greater wizarding world at that point to even know what kind of work exists outside of Hogwarts and Hogsmeade. He just shrugs and goes with his first idea anyway. But then he’s not even committed to that idea really. He is not even bummed when his grades would apparently prevent him from taking Advanced Potions, a required class to become an Auror. When he learns that Slugorn had less strict requirements and he can take the class after all, he’s just kind of like, oh okay… “guess I will keep following this path. I have no other ideas.”
I agree with the Carlin Brothers that his career after Hogwarts should have been at Hogwarts. Whatever admiration he had for the fake Moody, the real Moody, or both, his truest admiration was for Dumbledore. And Hogwarts was his first real home. He excelled at Defense Against the Dark Arts from the beginning, and by his 5th year was even already teaching his classmates (including older students) skills that he had. And he was an incredibly effective teacher too, with his students using the skills he taught in the fight at the department of mysteries and the battle of hogwarts. He had more experience by then end of the 7th book fighting Dark Wizards than most Aurors at the ministry would have. That job would have been boring as hell after Voldemort and the Death Eaters were defeated. But he could use his experiences to enrich the next generations of witches and wizards, teach them to protect themselves, and be there to make sure Hogwarts remained the haven that is had been for him. It makes WAY more sense for him to have become the Defense Against the Dark Arts professor (especially since he broke the curse on the job with Voldemort’s defeat). But then count on JK to do some stupid shit.
Auror was his very first idea
Not to nitpick, but Auror was Rowling’s first idea, as you suggest in your last sentence there. Rowling’s narrow-minded world view wouldn’t let the hero become a teacher, or a politician, or an activist, or anything else. Her view of the world says cops are the real heroes, so the hero of her story must become a cop.
I think we’re putting the cart before the horse here.
Assuming Harry is virtuous and good and brave and excellent at fighting dark wizards and helping people, wouldn’t that be the perfect person to become a cop?
Those things qualify you for a whole slew of jobs, and Harry has plenty of other interests besides fighting evil wizards. It seems like very shallow, hackneyed writing to have a 14-year-old latch on to becoming a cop in a community that he didn’t even know existed until he was 11*, one which he literally isn’t permitted to participate in until he finishes boarding school.
Fair enough, but that argument also works against you:
Why become a cop? He has other interests than being a cop.
is equal to
Why not become a cop? He’s interested in being a cop.
Surely you know cops don’t eat sleep and breathe law enforcement too, right? As in they have other hobbies and interests? That goes for every job; a tailor has hobbies other than tailoring, and a taxi driver has other interests than driving.
What? Those aren’t equivalent at all. My whole point is that it’s bad writing and out of character for Harry to be interested in becoming a cop. Him becoming a cop is in no way equivalent to him pursuing literally anything else that would be more in-character.
Your second point has nothing to do with anything, and I don’t know why you included it.
I think you just don’t understand that cops come from the same schools, communities, homes, families, etc. as anyone else, including you; in other words, you have a significant mental rift that makes it impossible for you to walk the bridge of logic I built for you.
I don’t know if I can build a bridge big enough for you to cross. I guess just stare at my previous comment for a while until it clicks.
TL;DR: If you think, and even shout from the rooftops, that the only people suitable for law enforcement are pieces of shit, guess who is going to become law enforcement? Oh my, we seem to have a Too Many Pieces of Shit in Law Enforcement problem! Wonder how that happened…
Hey you fucking acorn, wanna take a break from insulting me and putting words in my mouth to point out where I said that the only people suitable for law enforcement are pieces of shit?
My point, for the third (3rd) time, is that having Harry be interested in being a cop is out of character and poor writing because of Harry’s traits and background
Only if you assume cops are there to help people. He’d do more good as a Batman/Dexter type.
Again, cart before horse.
You’re asserting that there are no helpful cops, therefore Harry being helpful means he should not be a cop.
In reality, Harry being helpful should be a cop, because he could be in a position to help people.
Dexter/Batman don’t do a lot of helping, they just crack skulls of people they perceive as bad. Ironically for your point, much like most IRL cops.
First off, ACAB.
Secondly, in a lot of stories Batman defeats city-wide or even nation- or global-wide threats. Kinda like Harry. And whatever Batman happens to do, because it’s somehow justified, it ends up being good. Because he’s the hero. Like Harry.
But like the earlier dude said Harry hasn’t even got an understanding of the wider world. He would be much better at being a professor, because it also includes studying instead of just enforcing the rules.
Even if you imagine a perfect cop, he wouldn’t be acting like Harry. Harry constantly breaks some rules or laws. Not what cops should be doing. Yeah you need some of the virtues Harry has but Harry is also inpatient and a large risk-taker. Neither of which are particularly good characteristics in cops except in media. A perfect cop would be someone slightly autistic about the rules and literally doesn’t do whatever they feel like, but defers to the rules.
Which Harry most certainly doesn’t.
Imagine if the magical world was (for this analogy) the US. Some who grew up in another country and hasn’t even lived in the US, just went to a mostly American school, wants to be an American cop? Even when they go through a necessary training (and we know the wizarding world isn’t big on credentials or experience) to become a cop, he’d still have very little understanding of the actual law with just some weeks of training, and wouldn’t have grown up hearing about the constitution of the US let alone all the amendments to it.
But like the earlier dude said Harry hasn’t even got an understanding of the wider world. He would be much better at being a professor, because it also includes studying instead of just enforcing the rules.
This section is refuted by: He’s 18, so “Duh” and “Nah,” respectively.
Even if you imagine a perfect cop, he wouldn’t be acting like Harry. Harry constantly breaks some rules or laws. Not what cops should be doing.
A fair point, but essentially the opposite of what looks like most people’s assertion about Harry becoming a cop, i.e. “He’s good so he should not be a cop,” and/or, “If some/most/all cops are bad, no one should become a cop.” I find both of those asinine takes, hence my refuting them above.
TL;DR: Harry would be morally upstanding and a loose cannon (assuming he doesn’t mature past 18), therefore a “good” cop, but not a “great” cop, and assuming his world is anything like ours, should absolutely be a cop to offset the bad.
Imagine if the magical world was (for this analogy) the US. Some who grew up in another country and hasn’t even lived in the US, just went to a mostly American school, wants to be an American cop? Even when they go through a necessary training (and we know the wizarding world isn’t big on credentials or experience) to become a cop, he’d still have very little understanding of the actual law with just some weeks of training, and wouldn’t have grown up hearing about the constitution of the US let alone all the amendments to it.
Yes, immigrant cops have a disadvantage to face, but I disagree in your analogy and its application to Harry that it means they’re disqualified from the position; that’s a training issue that is far from impossible.
