According to my friend who comes from Pakistan, they have a slang for brown folks living abroad called “kuttae” which transliterates to “dog”, but basically means “white man’s lackey”. She says most people hate them, but tolerate their antics because they generally have more money.

I know how badly immigrants from Africa and Asia have been treated in the US. What surprises me is that so many of the people working in the immigration office are descendants of immigrants. This got me thinking if one of the consequences of a US collapse (or even a major expulsion/exodus) would be these folks being forced to go back to the countries of their ancestors, and being treated horribly there out of spite / revenge.

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    Be realistic.

    If the USA goes down, it’s not going to be a soft landing.

    The USSR was a smooth transition, and there was massive genocide in the wake of the fall. Ukraine gave up its weapons when the EU and USA promised them help.

    Think places like North Dakota are going to peacefully surrender their nukes?

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    It kinda depends on what you mean when you say a “collapse”. If you’re talking about a cascading failure that swiftly leads to near anarchy…then people are going to be a little too busy with their own problems to really care. The world is so interconnected and dependent on international trade that shutting down one straight has had yet to be told consequences on global trade and geopolitical stability.

    I don’t think a collapse in the sense that a lot of people are predicting is really possible. More than likely the US will slowly withdraw from their current sphere of influence and create vacuums of power that another world power will fill. In that case the views of Americans will slowly change over time to match their changing influence.

    Empires don’t really vanish over night. People like to see the end of the Roman empire as some major event that turned off the lights overnight, but that’s really just a byproduct of the compressive effects of how we read about history. In reality if you lived at the edge of the empire, at some point in you fathers life the Romans stopped building bridges, and in yours they stopped maintaining roads, in your son’s they might not even bother to send a tax collector. At some point people decide the roads are too shitty and need to be maintained, and you get a new tax collector.

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    and being treated horribly there out of spite / revenge.

    Very unlikely, unless they keep acting entitled. Yes, the ‘kuttae’ stereotype is there, but in the end they’re just people who tried to get a more comfortable life.

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    This sounds like something that would vary from country to country. Also, assuming the person still spoke the local language, how would you even know?

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        I got the impression that they were referring to emigrants that naturalized and later repatriated, not necessarily their descendants. Also, just from my anecdotal experience, it seems that second-generation immigrants tend to learn both the native and host languages, and third-generation and beyond don’t know their native languages, or just bits and pieces. Source is my in-laws, as my wife is a second-generation immigrant (technically first but she was a baby when she came over.)