In the days after the US Department of Justice (DOJ) published 3.5 million pages of documents related to the late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, multiple users on X have asked Grok to “unblur” or remove the black boxes covering the faces of children and women in images that were meant to protect their privacy.

  • Paranoid Factoid@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    How do these AI models generate nude imagery of children without having been trained with data containing illegal images of nude children?

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      4 months ago

      Tbf it’s not needed. If it can draw children and it can draw nude adults, it can draw nude children.

      Just like it doesn’t need to have trained on purple geese to draw one. It just needs to know how to draw purple things and how to draw geese.

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        4 months ago

        that’s not true, a child and an adult are not the same. and ai can not do such things without the training data. it’s the full wine glass problem. and the only reason THAT example was fixed after it was used to show the methodology problem with AI, is because they literally trained it for that specific thing to cover it up.

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          I’m not saying it wasnt trained on csam or defending any AI.

          But your point isn’t correct

          What prompts you use and how you request changes can get same results. Clever prompts already circumvent many hard wired protections. It’s a game of whackamole and every new iteration of an AI will require different methods needed bypass those protections.

          If you can ask it the right ways it will do whatever a prompt tells it to do

          !You can’t tell it to make a nude image of a child, I assume, but you can tell it make the subject in the image of the last prompt 60% smaller and adjust it as necessary to make it believable.!< That probably shouldnt work but I don’t put anything passed these assholes.

          It doesn’t take actual images/data trained if you can just tell it how to get the results you want it to by using different language that it hasn’t been told not to accept.

          The AI doesn’t know what it is doing, it’s simply running points through its system and outputting the results.

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    4 months ago

    I am so glad I no longer interact with that dumpster fire of a social network. It’s like the Elon takeover and the monetization program brought out every weirdo in the world out of the woodwork

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    4 months ago

    Won’t work and if it does work, the resulting image has little to nothing to do with the original.

    Source: I opened a badly taken .raw file a few thousand times and I know what focal length means, come at me.

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    4 months ago

    unblur the face with 1000% accuracy

    They have no idea how this models work :D

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    4 months ago

    Are these people fucking stupid? AI can’t remove something hardcoded to the image. The only way for it to “remove” it is by placing a different image over it, but since it has no idea what’s underneath, it would literally just be making up a new image that has nothing to do with the content of the original. Jfc, people are morons. I’m disappointed the article doesn’t explicitly state that either.

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      The black boxes would be impossible, but there are some types of blur that keep enough of the original data they can be undone. There was a pedofile that used a swirl to cover his face in pictures and investigators were able to unswirl the images and identify him.

      With how the rest of it has gone it wouldn’t surprise me if someone was incompetent enough to use a reversible one, although I have doubts Grok would do it properly.

      Edit: this technique only works for video, but maybe if there are several pictures of the same person all blurred it could be used there too?

      https://youtu.be/acKYYwcxpGk

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        Several years ago, authorities were searching the world for a guy who had been going around the world, molesting children, photographing them, and distributing them on the Internet. He was often in the photos, but he had chosen to use some sort of swirl blur on his face to hide it. The authorities just “unswirled” it, and there was his face, in all those photos of abused children.

        They caught him soon after.