• Herr_S_aus_H@lemmy.zip
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    This is the reason why I always get way to mad at conspiracy theorists. You don’t have to make up some shadowy cabal or the jews, be mad at the wealthy oligarchs.

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      One theory I heard: Crazy conspiracy theories were created by the government to make legitimate conspiracy theories look ridiculous by association. “Oh, you think there’s an island of pedophile billionaires running the world? I bet you also think the moon landing was fake.” A classic “the butts match” gambit.

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      Thats level one feury. Level 2 is when they tell you a well known asshole billionaire is going to fight the shadow cabal for us.

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      Shadow cabal and oligarchy aren’t mutually exclusive. Seems to me the oligarchs are just the more obvious nodes of the shadow cabal web, the fuckers with the money and power that can go on TV and talk directly to senators.

      Go one step back away from the limelight and you get dudes like Cheney, Bannon, people who interact with all the obvious oligarchs but don’t need to post on social media and don’t need to stay relevant to constituents. And then people like Epstein, agents in the field gathering blackmail.

      Shit is pretty fucking crazy tbh.

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        Yup.

        And in the 4 classes I’ve heard the spooks and crooks use, assets, agents, operators and architects, there are those above the agents like Epstein.

        I say “above”. But, when looking to try see the top, it looks murky. … Sounds more like the bottom. Of a swamp. Such is kakistarchy. Ruled by the worst.

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      You know them, you know their names, net worth ranked etc.

      Among other things they were high on ket and thought they can teabag democracy in the face because everyone is so dumb.

      They have shits for brains now that betray the game blatantly.

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        We know the projection of the puppets.

        Don’t fall for the panto.

        Climb on out of Plato’s cave.

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      “As you probably know I represent the Rothschild’s” -Jeffery Epstein in email to Peter Thiel.

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          A family of old money wealthy oligarchs who founded the state of Israel and set up Epstein to blackmail politicians in the west to continue to fund their genocidal state at their citizens behest. A little more complicated when you add generations of oligarchs with nefarious agendas. Even if the problem boils down to that these oligarchs have millions brainwashed to defend them and their agenda through tribalism and media propaganda. I agree that most of the world’s problems have boiled down to the wealthy but that is an oversimplification when you don’t factor in the “conspiracy” meaning the nefarious plots to maintain and grow their power and the control they hold over our “democracies”.

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            Great comment.

            Refreshing contrast to the murmuring misdirections away from the man behind the curtain as if he didn’t exist.

            “Wealth of nations” springs to mind, and how much the Rothschild empire was worth in 1900…

            Some seem not even looking to the likes of the BIS, or… or even to any power players, other than those puppets that are loudly presented to them.

            … Like (if this isn’t too much of a poetic mangle of metaphors) the fish oblivious to water, they’re kept degrees of separation away from realising the condition and context of the water, like that they’re in a polluted sea of misinformation where everybody’s a shill, and that flocking together in confirmation biased shoals echo-chambering to boost confidence in naive-realist stubbornly-held narratives isn’t sound epistemology to help them help the situation. Could be time to climb on out of the water and evolve.

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            What’s the point of all that money if you have to use so much of it to manipulate the world so they won’t murder you and your entire bloodline?

            Just get moderately wealthy, and and have a nice life, with nobody gunning for you. Is the bigger mansion or bigger yacht really that much better?

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              Yup. Reminds me of my ol’

              Do you have spaceships yet? And the reassurance no one is trying to take yours because they have their own too? Spaceships for everybody.

              with the implication being, with the prolific provision of the emancipatory technologies, even the richest are better off.

              Recently, something was pointed out to me that made me realise, even if in some grand Robin Hood style remedy to the vast economic iniquity, instead the money just went “*poof*”, even then, even they[and us all]'d still be better off. The economy would adjust, and even they would have more buying power, the monopoly’s “anti-competitive” brakes would be taken off the economy, and the target would be taken off their back.

              … But can you imagine the psychology in the psycho oligarch class… the game theory that would be spinning in their grand-narcissistic delusion of superiority and their absence of caring… How many of them would still be foolishly thinking “but if I were the only one who did not lose all their wealth, I would have total dominion over the world! Muhahahahah”!.

              Oh to get each and all out of the malconditioned short-looping separationist win delusion, and into the longer now.

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                The more I see from groups like this, I cant help but agree. Maybe its all the isolation and paranoia knowing that most of the people around you are just using you for your money or influence and don’t give a shit about you.

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                  I think cluster b personality disorders like malignant narcissism and psychopathy are rewarded in our broken society so it’s compounded ten fold at the top

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            Those damn jews, right? If somebody would just do something about them. /s
            Please cut that bullshit of these shadowy dark figures in the background. There are real people like Elon Musk from whom we know what he does and influences with his wealth.

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              The Rothschild’s being mentioned 12,000 times in the Epstein files is pretty damning and spare me the antisemitism witch hunt. I have no issues with people practicing their religion. I do have issue with Zionists who are made up of Christians, secularists and Jewish people. I have an issue with and a genocidal colonial project run by an evil cabal of oligarchs who are blackmailing our politicians. Israel does not represent a religion. It’s you who are the bigot. It is you who is willing to put your head in the sand despite overwhelming evidence to support your biases before this Epstein data drop I had no clue about this stuff but now it’s pretty clear what the evidence points to

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                Mate, if you paddle one of the antisemetic lies of the post war era “the Rothschilds founded Israel” then sorry, you are either not that bright or an antisemite or both. Look up the living Rothschilds. Yes they are wealthy but they aren’t even billionaires. Somebody painted a picture of a boogeyman for you so you don’t get mad at the real culprits who fuck you over and you took the bait. You are one of the people I meant in my first post.

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                  I learned it from a university of Chicago history professors talk at my school. It’s a traceable fact with evidence. France literally raided their offices due to the Epstein files. Nat Rothschild made the deal with the president of Albania for Jared and Ivankas new billionaire island retreat. It’s you who is not very bright

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                    Of course you did. But go ahead, name the professor and enthrall me with this evidence.
                    And about the living Rothschilds, again yes they are wealthy but in no way, shape or form are they the global ever evil conspiracy who lurks behind every corner. What Kushner does in Albania is not good and the albanian people have every right and my full support to do everything they can to stop it. That is what I mean, be mad at the real shit not the boogeyman.

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              edit: Alright, as I’m not willing to die on that dumb Rothschild hill, I’m withdrawing.

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              What?!? Nothing I said wasn’t factual. Also, the Palestinian’s are the semetic people not some white guy from jersey.