The police reported that the Model 3 “failed to drive in a single lane, left the roadway and struck the residence” at a “high rate of speed.” The crash involved a woman, Martha Avila, who was inside the house. She was transported to a local hospital where she was pronounced dead “due to injuries she sustained from the crash,” police said. The police release said there were “no signs of intoxication” from the driver, who was also cooperative during the investigation.

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    Completely the driver’s fault. It is ALWAYS the responsibility of the driver to control the car. Zero exceptions.

    Whether the tool is bad doesn’t matter because it is VERY easy to immediately disengage it.

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        Autosteer is just fancy cruise control.

        It’s not like the driver got out of the car and let the car drive on its own.

        Seriously. It takes barely any motion from the driver to disable the system. Grab the wheel and pull. Tap the brake. Flip the control stalk up/hit the off button.

        The driver’s job is to not hit shit with her car. Period. Nobody should ever assume that the car will protect their lives. Whether it intends to or its not capable or what. It’s on the driver for not taking over and avoiding a collision. Always. Without exception.

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        Didn’t mention him once. He’s not relevant to the conversation. This is about a driver failing to control her car. Period.

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          Is it? Or is it about a major system failure leading to an uncontrollable car?

          He is very relevant because he says his cars are self driving and safer than human drivers.

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            There’s no way the car was completely uncontrollable outside of something like a mechanical failure of the suspension or steering system. It is the easiest thing in the world to take over from those systems. You can yank the wheel. You can hit the brake. You can bump the switch. All of those are intuitive and take no time. It’s exactly as easy as turning off cruise control. Completely, 100% on the driver. Period.

            Again, shit on reality instead of fantasy. There’s plenty of actual real things that Tesla does that suck. Turning off autosteer isn’t one of them. We’re making up lies and trying to criticize based on those when there’s a cornucopia of horrible truths right there ripe for the picking. All this insistence on lying is doing is weakening the argument.

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          Tesla is selling the car as being self-driving. If people assume that means it can drive itself, that’s Tesla’s fault.

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            If you have ever driven a car before, never do it again. You specifically are too stupid to be on the road if you think that way. Same for the driver of this car.

            Ford, GM, Mercedes, BMW, Rivian, and a ton more car makers have the exact same technologies in their cars. Nobody says this kind of bullshit when one of them crashes. They blame the driver because that’s the truth.

            If you’re going to shit on Tesla or on Elon, shit on them because of actual reality. Shit on the build quality. Shit on the labor practices. Shit on Elon’s politics. Shit on how their charging technology is now a couple of generations behind. You don’t have to make up bullshit that isn’t true. It just shows that you don’t know what you’re talking about and that you’re just farming validation by parroting stupidity. Do better.

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              My car has driving assist, which is pretty much the same tech. It informs me I need to keep my hands on the wheel and my eyes on the road. It reminds me I’m responsible because it is not autonomous. Tesla has the same level of assisted driving, yet they market it as “self driving”.

              I also shit on everything else, and this is one more dangerous lie