Americans have grown less proud of their country’s history or the way its democracy works over the past decade, according to a new AP-NORC poll.
Americans’ pride in the U.S. on several key attributes has dropped since 2017 — including the nation’s military and its political influence around the globe — according to the survey from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. This poll was conducted in April, as the United States and Iran fought over the Strait of Hormuz in a prolonged war that started with the U.S. and Israel launching strikes on Iran.
New Gallup polling also finds that only 53% of U.S. adults are “extremely” or “very” proud to be an American, the lowest reading in the trend dating back to 2001.
nothing to be proud of a neo nazi state
At the same time, most U.S. adults say that being an American is “extremely” or “very” important to their identity, highlighting an enduring connection, even as some become increasingly critical of the country’s past or the government’s current actions.
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He has a bald eagle tattooed on his back to represent the United States, its freedoms and “all the things we’re supposed to stand for as a country.”
Most USA citizens are unaware of the degree of propaganda we’re fed starting during childhood. I remember saying the pledge of allegiance (a very weird thing to teach to children) in school every day. It’s like the hitler-youth. And singing the star spangled banner, in first grade, every morning. Very weird thing to make us do.
When I was 18 years old, we rented the animated Transformers movie from the 80s and played it on silent with trippy music while we were on acid. The animation was so cool that we later rewatched it with sound on after we came down and it held up. We thought the GI Joe movie might also remain good and rented that next. It was child-propaganda. My then-gf turned to me and said, “this was Regan’s amerika.” She was right. It was trash.
We were taught how awesome we were since I was a child while the truth is that we brutalize, overthrow, and extract. I read an 800 page history of WWII and came away with the primary thought that the USSR won that war, not the USA. I can’t believe how much we lie to ourselves. But it makes it easier to justify all the horrors. Look at repubs trying to sanitize the teaching of history even further. I wonder why…
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Never understood the national pride thing. People born here didn’t choose here.
People can be proud of what they are. It is how it is, I guess.
Give me something to be proud of, and I’ll be fucking proud.
But currently…
We have hands down, the most corrupt federal government in our history.
We’re blowing up non-military boats without any due process.
We’re shooting missiles in elementary schools and threatening the death of an entire country.
We’re financially and materially supporting/encouraging a genocide.
We’ve hung Ukraine out to dry.
We’ve absolutely skull fucked the global economy.
We’re being lead by (probably) a core member of the largest child trafficking operation in the last century.
Our people can’t afford healthcare, childcare, housing and food.
The right to vote is actively being undermined.
You know what would make me fucking proud?
Fining (or better yet liquidating) the corrupt companies, individuals and organizations that are party to trumps grifts, using that money to establish UBI, pay reparations to Iran (of all fucking things), establish fair and sensible taxation policies, reset the supreme court, and put every fucking member of the Trump admin through an actual justice system that is accountable to the people.
Franky, anyone who is proud of the US right now needs to be fucking locked up.
Oh, I forgot, we have literal concentration camps in the US right now… For the second time in 10 years!
as it should be
There are no countries, only people. Patriotism divides.
Sounds like something someone from a shit country would say. My country rules! Go patriotism!
Nationalism generally should be shunned.
I’ve never been “proud” of the country I happened to have been born in and have lived in because I’ve never had the means to move anywhere else.
I’m much less satisfied with how things are going in this country over the past 10 years, but it’s never been great. Healthcare is a constant struggle, and terrible, for instance.
I don’t take pride in anything billionaires accomplish for themselves, which is 95% of what is usually pushed forward to take pride in. It’s all bullshit.
Recently, we’ve bombed children in other countries, should we be proud of that? I’m ashamed of my country at the moment.
Everything is shit because our leaders don’t feel any common identity with the people. They don’t feel any need to represent us. We need more nationalism, not less. I don’t see how we could have any less nationalism than we already have. The soul of the USA has been torn out and stomped under corporate boots.
“soul of USA” as if USA isnt doing exactly what it was meant for, what it has always stood for
America: Asians discovered it, Africans built it, White people destroyed it.
I think US history is fucking brutal, sad and shameful. Any white american, especially those who were here from the start, should not be proud of their heritage, I certainly am not. That said, I do embrace my country. It has the potential to not be shitty. We have kind people. We have generous people. We have so much that we could be proud of.
I think we need to reject the make america great again idea and charge it to make america decent for once. It could be great. But it never has been.
When you want to be pumped to celebrate America’s 250th birthday but remember all the history you weren’t taught in school.
Can’t say that I ever felt pride as an American. What IS an American anyway? I don’t feel kinship with much of the land and its peoples.
I don’t understand how you don’t feel a kinship with the land. If you mean that it’s fucked up how America came to “own” it then yeah, that’s fucked up, but the land didn’t do that, fucked up people did. I love the beautiful land of America so much and that’s honestly the biggest/only thing I’m proud to be American for right now, and I spend as much time enjoying it as I can.
I would probably feel more pride and connection if it weren’t for the fact that it’s only mine to enjoy because of theft and genocide.
It would also help if so much of it weren’t covered in parking lots, strip malls, and car dealerships.
I haven’t ever had enough money to travel beyond my city, nor to afford third places. My PC is the world to me, because it is the closest I can get to wandering off to somewhere else.
For people who lack wealth, it is difficult to develop a connection with many places, let alone a deep one. The Lincoln Memorial, Yellow Stone Park, Florida, Hawaii, all are just places in a picture. No different from Cuba, Switzerland, or Japan. All these places are even more fictional than those in my videogames, because I can’t even visit.
Bit embarrassed to live on earth these days let alone the US.
Same. Looking forward to the aliens putting us all on time out.
I really hope like the galactic equivalent of the USS enterprise shows up and is just like “what in the fuck are you morons doing?”
We wouldn’t be anywhere close to qualifying for admission into the federation. They require a stable world government.
Oh no I was thinking more like a lost ship or something stumbles on earth. Given the choice they’d probably take one look and move on.
Let’s be clear. The primary reason people have lost pride in America and democracy is Donald Trump and his administration. You can say other administrations have had their faults, certainly, but what’s happening now is far, far worse. And let’s not forget the constant drumbeat of propaganda from Fox News and other right wing outlets telling us our country is a shit hole. And again, we have our problems, but this is how propaganda works. You mix in some truth about something while wildly exaggerating or making up other things about it.
Idk Trump is without a doubt the worst (so far) and doesn’t bother to even dress it up as anything else but when I read this:
New Gallup polling also finds that only 53% of U.S. adults are “extremely” or “very” proud to be an American, the lowest reading in the trend dating back to 2001.
My first thought was “Ruh Roh…”
Every authoritarian overreach, breach of civil rights and liberties in the name of safety, invasion of privacy, and abuse of executive power, was made possible by the Patriot Act and the Bush administration’s response to 9/11.
The creation of ICE and homeland security (once again for our own safety).
Information control and the idea of a post truth society vs a reality based community that seems to be getting smaller and smaller by the year.
Propaganda and fear meant to box people into black and white thinking is an echo of McCarthyism but was most famously stated as “If you’re not with us, you’re against us.”
That frame of mind/tribalistic thinking was normalized in the 50s, signed into law in the early aughts, and the same day Charlie Kirk was assassinated and Trump signed NSPM-7, allowed the already overly vague and easily abused definition of terrorist/terrorism to be expanded to include political opposition and basically anybody for anything, because the king says so.
Not long after NSPM-7, the king and his administration began targeting fishing boats in Venezuela with drone strikes and breaking into homes in the United States without search warrants due to similar vague claims about threats of terrorism and safety. And even though they’ve mainly focused on immigrants so far, they’ve quietly continued to test the waters and see how far they can expand that definition by tying possession and distribution to foreign drug cartels (while also literally making closed door deals with wealthy drug cartels and their families, bc they do whatever TF they want. Organized crime is still organized crime, but it’s being legalized for certain people).
They really ramped things up with Renee Good and seemed to back down a bit after Alex Pretty, but they’re definitely not done. People should not be letting their guard down, because without a doubt they’re going to get more brazen just before and especially after the midterms, and as the king keeps reminding us, he wants to normalize the idea that there are no limits to his executive power. (And SCOTUS has continued to quietly ensure that’s true).
Tldr: I question if it’s really a coincidence Trump makes W.'s legacy look so much better by comparison, because W. and his administration enabled all of this. (And tbf to “both sides,” I do honestly feel that the Dems that came after W. in Congress and the White House deserve a middle finger for not making any real effort to undo any of it when they had the chance.)
Yeah. Know what? I think that’s the narrative they’re trying to bully us into. The “proud patriots” being their right-wing gooshtepperz and everyone else just whining and hating the country and saying it sucks all the time.
Nonsense! We should take pride in our country, because that spurs us to fight for it and make it better. You’re much less inclined to kick miscreants and ruffians out of a space you don’t consider yours.
They practically already hijacked the flag, the flag that’s supposed to represent all of us. They’ve hijacked the narrative of the Christian faith as well, which actually used to be a HUGE leftist thorn in the side of capitalists, when it was actually centered about loving thy neighbor.
We’ve seen in our lifetimes how easy it is for symbols to change. We need to take back our country and its heritage. The “red state” faction is even trying to claim the narrative over the revolution, instead of the more accurate history their ideology represents: The Shameful South of the Civil War. (They’ll hatefully decry all the “blue states” that actually won this land from the grip of the crown, of course.)
Like we should just let them have all of that, while they give us a little corner to complain in? While they march a private army through our cities and abduct and murder our neighbors?!
Hell no! This country can be a great country, when it’s a country for everyone. We just need to take it back from those who think they can make it “great again.”
Have a safe July 4th, take pride in being an American by pissing off fascists and enjoying what’s good about your country and fighting loudly for what can be BETTER. They HATE that.
Americans have grown less proud of their country’s history or the way its democracy works over the past decade
That’s because we’ve watched the veil of democracy fall and the Epstein class can do as they will with no recourse.
I have no pride in this shit hole country, only shame.
America is not my country. It is my prison.
