• meltycat@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    If buying does not equal owning something, piracy can’t equal theft. At this rate, what’s the point of consoles?

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      2 days ago

      You do own it, you own the digital copy. The developer can’t hack your computer and remove it or prevent you from playing it.

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        They just remove the right to access it. You don’t own it, you own a licence to play it. You don’t own anything digitally you yourself cannot access and transfer.

        You don’t own the content on Netflix. Or Amazon. Or any digital marketplace, besides DRM-free places.

        They don’t hack your computer, they just turn off the servers and ban accounts.

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          They just remove the right to access it.

          They can’t do that, it’s impossible. You are not logging into their server to play the game. You are downloading and installing it on your local machine.

          This is NOT like Netflix. How can people be so ignorant about this? Do you not really know how this works? For Netflix, you stream from their servers. That IS NOT what is happening here.

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        This is why all video is streaming now and downloads require regular token checkin. Very few services provide real independent and long term functioning local downloads of media.

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            The digital store downloads came via an encrypted file format. That format depends on specific software from the ps5 to open. If you switch to a PS6 or get an update to the OS pushed to your PS5 it is entirely possible those files will no longer open.

            It isn’t like they sold you a mp4 or mkv files.

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        The developer can actually remove it remotely. Sony itself is currently doing it: they’re removing all movies bought by users.

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          23 hours ago

          Do you have those movies saved on your local machine? Or are you accessing them on a remote server?

          People here are supposed to tech literate, goddamn. I’m barely tech literate and I understand the difference between downloading and installing a program on your local machine and accessing streaming video on remote servers.

          Sony cannot remove programs from your local machine.

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            7 hours ago

            Sony is actually removing them from people’s machines, remotely. Look up DRM on Wikipedia.

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            20 hours ago

            …Have you not heard of DRM?

            Because DRM is a thing too. They can make it so you can’t open that program on your local machine.

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            Let me paint a picture for you, friend: you have a power outage while playing games. Your drive is corrupted (yes, this happened to me).
            Sony has removed the game from their servers, and you just lost your only copy, as you have no way to back it up.
            It is now gone forever, just like the movies they removed after selling.

            You seem irritated that people push back at you, but they have valid points. Without a physical copy, you are no longer in control of the game/movie.

            You also lose the ability to buy and sell used, which is a right you have with physical disks, but not with a digital license.

            It’s ok to not care for physical media, but at least try to understand the point we’re trying to make. We want us all to have access to both digital and physical to choose freely. Why fight that when it’s a win/win for all of us?