The REASON it’s illegal and dangerous to walk from these hotels is there’s a damn whole canal between here and the stadium and the bridge is a limited-access highway. https://maps.app.goo.gl/5nK4bkNg9fHkWunn7
There isn’t a pedestrian bridge over the canal, that’s why you gotta get a ride.
That’s the reason I can’t simply walk to the nearby Denny’s if I wanted to even tho it’s like 3 blocks away; it’s on the otherside of highway 99 and there are no pedestrian crossings for MILES over it.
My FIL randomly got me an e-bike that I can’t use for that exact reason. There’s no way for me to get anywhere from my house without having to cross an extremely busy highway. I could drive the bike to places, but that defeats the purpose.
Deliberate in the sense that someone built a hotel on land that was cheap for reason?
Do you think that the city should engage a billion dollar civil engineering project to build a pedestrian bridge over a navigable canal so that it can serve whoever was dumb enough to build a hotel here?
To be clear, there are like a hundred hotels that you CAN walk to this stadium from, just not this one.
Do you think that the city should engage a – civil engineering project to build a pedestrian bridge over a navigable canal?
Uhmm? Yes? Have you somehow missed that there’s a stadium on the other side of the canal? There are a lot of things in the southwest corner of the map, not just one hotel. I do not believe there’s any other country on this planet where this is even a question. That bridge would absolutely get built. Building the stadium cost a big sum of money. A simple pedestrian bridge costs something like 50 000 $, maybe 200 000 $ if you want a fancy one. How would it not be possible for the stadium to pay that? It’s an increase of about one percent to the project’s expenses.
And if they somehow forgot to include the necessary traffic connections in requirements for giving the permission to build the stadium, then I can assure you that the state is able to pay for a hundred grand for simple infrastructure.
Yes, there are plenty of countries on earth that don’t pave over their rivers so that you can build a business wherever you want without obstruction. What a stupid fucking notion.
Geographic obstacles exist in other countries too. No country on earth removes every geographic obstacle to create a shortest possible-straight line walking path between every structure that exists. The idea that literally anyone would do this is absurd.
Here’s the thing, that bridge would only serve tourists customers of the hotel, not the tax payers of NJ who would be paying for it. So it’s on the hotel here to advocate for their customers and either work with NJDOT for the bridge or run a shuttle. But they put up the sign instead because their only care about their bare minimum liability, not making things safe or convenient.
Please take a look at the map. There are plenty of things there, other than just one hotel. There’s the whole town of Lyndhurst there, and the southern parts of Rutherford, just some 5 km away from the stadium. Or, if we take 5 miles, that would mean about 8 km. 8 km is about the limit until what distance can be covered by bicycle without an effort.
A society exists for maintaining infrastructure. It’s a basic function and it’s unforgivable for a city to fail on that!
found some figures about cost of bridge building and apparently if one were to construct a completely new pedestrian overpass/bridge over that canal would be on the ballpark of about 2-10 million dollars
That sounds a lot more reasonable. And that’s a standalone bridge. If you want to be stingy, you could also just have a walkway on the side of the highway bridge. Make sure you’ve got a solid wall between the cars ajd pedestrians, of course.
How much extra do you think it would have cost to add an 6’ walkway to the bridge when it was built, merely as a future-proofing mechanism? When your first thought is, “No one would ever want to walk from one side to the other instead of using some kind of transportation,” these are the kind of results you get.
The REASON it’s illegal and dangerous to walk from these hotels is there’s a damn whole canal between here and the stadium and the bridge is a limited-access highway. https://maps.app.goo.gl/5nK4bkNg9fHkWunn7
There isn’t a pedestrian bridge over the canal, that’s why you gotta get a ride.
When will the pedestrian bridge be ready?
Sounds like bad planning.
lmao fucking americans… “The government won’t let me walk on the highway, that’s the real tyranny!” What a confused bunch.
Also america: driving takes one mile, walking takes 6 miles to get to the same place.
That’s the reason I can’t simply walk to the nearby Denny’s if I wanted to even tho it’s like 3 blocks away; it’s on the otherside of highway 99 and there are no pedestrian crossings for MILES over it.
My FIL randomly got me an e-bike that I can’t use for that exact reason. There’s no way for me to get anywhere from my house without having to cross an extremely busy highway. I could drive the bike to places, but that defeats the purpose.
Wait… What? Riding the bike defeats the purpose of having the bike? I’m confused.
By drive the bike I mean putting it in my truck and bringing it somewhere safe to ride.
So, why is there no pedestrian bridge?
Holy Shit, making it from the nearest hotel across the canal turns a 1-mile walk into a 6-mile hike =U
That has to be deliberate, there’s no other excuse for it.
Deliberate in the sense that someone built a hotel on land that was cheap for reason?
Do you think that the city should engage a billion dollar civil engineering project to build a pedestrian bridge over a navigable canal so that it can serve whoever was dumb enough to build a hotel here?
To be clear, there are like a hundred hotels that you CAN walk to this stadium from, just not this one.
Uhmm? Yes? Have you somehow missed that there’s a stadium on the other side of the canal? There are a lot of things in the southwest corner of the map, not just one hotel. I do not believe there’s any other country on this planet where this is even a question. That bridge would absolutely get built. Building the stadium cost a big sum of money. A simple pedestrian bridge costs something like 50 000 $, maybe 200 000 $ if you want a fancy one. How would it not be possible for the stadium to pay that? It’s an increase of about one percent to the project’s expenses.
And if they somehow forgot to include the necessary traffic connections in requirements for giving the permission to build the stadium, then I can assure you that the state is able to pay for a hundred grand for simple infrastructure.
Yes, there are plenty of countries on earth that don’t pave over their rivers so that you can build a business wherever you want without obstruction. What a stupid fucking notion.
Sorry, I understand each word you wrote, but not really their meaning. Would you be able to paraphrase, please?
Geographic obstacles exist in other countries too. No country on earth removes every geographic obstacle to create a shortest possible-straight line walking path between every structure that exists. The idea that literally anyone would do this is absurd.
I know it’s absurd.
Why did you bring that absurd idea up in this comment of yours?
Here’s the thing, that bridge would only serve tourists customers of the hotel, not the tax payers of NJ who would be paying for it. So it’s on the hotel here to advocate for their customers and either work with NJDOT for the bridge or run a shuttle. But they put up the sign instead because their only care about their bare minimum liability, not making things safe or convenient.
Please take a look at the map. There are plenty of things there, other than just one hotel. There’s the whole town of Lyndhurst there, and the southern parts of Rutherford, just some 5 km away from the stadium. Or, if we take 5 miles, that would mean about 8 km. 8 km is about the limit until what distance can be covered by bicycle without an effort.
A society exists for maintaining infrastructure. It’s a basic function and it’s unforgivable for a city to fail on that!
EDIT: And because it’s really useful to look at the map, here’s a direct link to show the distances: https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=40.81219%2C-74.07257%3B40.7875%2C-74.13428#map=14%2F40.80825%2F-74.09755
All of whom may take the NJ transit bus system to do so.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/jYULVMiatawa45gm9
That is a self-clarity. But why should every human being use buses only? That sounds incredibly dystopic, to be honest.
A billion dollars for a pedestrian bridge? That thing had better be made of gold, then.
found some figures about cost of bridge building and apparently if one were to construct a completely new pedestrian overpass/bridge over that canal would be on the ballpark of about 2-10 million dollars
That sounds a lot more reasonable. And that’s a standalone bridge. If you want to be stingy, you could also just have a walkway on the side of the highway bridge. Make sure you’ve got a solid wall between the cars ajd pedestrians, of course.
How much extra do you think it would have cost to add an 6’ walkway to the bridge when it was built, merely as a future-proofing mechanism? When your first thought is, “No one would ever want to walk from one side to the other instead of using some kind of transportation,” these are the kind of results you get.