“Republicans are once again attempting to make Daylight Saving Time permanent, with President Donald Trump promising to lead the push to end the longstanding American practice of switching clocks twice a year.”
“Republicans are once again attempting to make Daylight Saving Time permanent, with President Donald Trump promising to lead the push to end the longstanding American practice of switching clocks twice a year.”
Agreed. I’m all for making solar time stay in place year-round, but it’s insanity to mandate we always use the wrong time.
There is no wrong time. It’s arbitrary numbers it doesn’t matter what you call the number at.
Wrong. Noon should be the hour closest to the sun’s peak.
Just hang your clock up with 1 at the top then? Why not start the day at 1? What is magic about 12?
Well, there’s a lot of magic in 12, but I would say noon is more of a 0 and that’s the most magic number of all.
Why? The name you assign that makes no damn difference. Also is not consistent by latitude. Or the boundaries of time zones for that matter. Or the time of the year.
It makes a difference to align my internal clock with solar activity. The middle of the day (noon) must be the middle of the day (sun’s peak). DST sucks.
Hope you don’t move. You must live at the equator?
Seriously, you clock is yours the number doesn’t matter. Other people are on all their own rhythms the numbers are arbitrary.
If you like what ever noon means to you, the name and number assigned at that time doesn’t mean anything.
“Your” clock is bad, usually ranging from a 23 to 25 hour cycle naturally. The sun is what constantly adjusts it to match 24 hours.
The people with a natural inner clock of more than 24 hours (those are the majority btw) need the sunrise to tell their bodies “hey, you might think its still time to sleep because you are on hours #25 of your day/night cycle, but it’s time to wake up” and the sunset for “it might feel like there is still another hour of day but it’s time to get tired and got to sleep”.
Moving sunset/-rise an hour back really screws with their inner clocks. And “I just feel that one hour more of light in the evening is better” (the usual argument of the daylight savinf time as standard time side) does not beat actual biology and damning more than half of the people to a constant state of light sleep deprivation.
Latitude doesn’t affect when the Sun is at the peak, it affects how high the sun is when it is at the peak.
And when I am i Iceland what is noon?
Still when the sun it at it’s peak. Even in places beyond the (an)arctic circle(s), the sun does move up and down in the sky over a 24 hour-period, even when it doesn’t go below/above the horizon for many months. (Tho, it might move left to right “more” on many of those days.)
I’d rather it get dark at 9:30 in summer and 5:30 in winter than 8:30 in summer and 4:30 in winter.
I’d rather have dark mornings than dark afternoons.
Yeah, I’d rather bright mornings, and so here we are at an impasse!
Just leave it, it is what it is. Or shit, make the following Monday a holiday, how about that. Give us an extra 24 hours to adjust.
I don’t get this argument. The day doesn’t change no matter what the numbers are. Just do something when it’s light or dark when you want to. That’s it.
Changing the clock itself alters the amount of light left when people get off work.
We could’ve just left the clocks alone, and instead made it mandatory that businesses reduce working hours by an hour or two in the winter, while maintaining the same pay. But since the government is corporate captured, that would never pass.
In our current system of daylight savings, corporations get the same amount of work hours, while all the workers are forced to adjust. It’s a pro-corporate compromise.
It’s similar to how studies show that 4-day work weeks boost mental health and productivity, but corporations don’t like the idea, so a law mandating 4-day work weeks without a reduction in pay would never pass, despite it benefitting society.
This doesn’t make any sense to me. They get the same amount of work hours no matter what the clock says.
Also the daylight time will vary depending on what latitude you are on, so I am not getting this argument.
In any case I do think it’s up to each community to figure out what day and night are, and like some I have lived in they adjust summer hours vs winter hours for the reasons of shifting the activities to when they wanted them to occur. Not changing the clocks, just what hours they wanted to collectively do things.
I think you may be conflating my two paragraphs together. The first paragraph explains why they collectively change their clocks forward or backward an hour. It’s because most US businesses do not have alternate hours for different seasons.
My second paragraph is an alternate proposal, by me, that would avoid the need to change the clocks at all, while as a side effect giving people an extra hour of their life for themselves.
I just fail to understand how it’s pro corporate compromise. Seems to me it’s costs them far more in managing time zone changes than not.
I consider it pro-corporate because companies generally prefer if workers worked more hours, even if it doesn’t result in financial gains. This is evidenced by the fact that 4-day work weeks increase productivity and thus profits, but corporations a generally very against the idea regardless.
Corporation are usually bottom-line/profit focused, but they have some weird exceptions when it comes to improving worker conditions. Work from Home decreases operating costs and increases worker health, yet many corporations fight it tooth and nail.
Another examples is when Eastern Airlines was on the verge of bankruptcy. As a last ditch effort, the CEO (Frank Borman, previously the Commander on Apollo 8) decided to make a deal with the workers that gave them a fairly radical amount of horizontal control.
Doing so drastically increased productivity and profits, but Frank Borman was given tons of shit by other business owners for essentially not keeping the workers under his foot, telling him he should just let the company fold rather than give the workers that much power, just on a matter of principle.
Yeah I get that corporations are antiworker, but I am not sure why they care about daylight savings. They get the same work length either way. I suppose you could be saying it’s just a happenstance benefit.
Still corporations typically cross times zones and places like Arizona who don’t change their clocks at all show that I am not sure why it would matter to then either way.
I’d rather have noon the accurate year-around. I can’t switch when the sun is the highest. All other things I can reschedule.