…Because it’s ridiculously labor intensive? And emotionally draining?
Have yall ever had to take care of someone really old, with failing health? Or really young?
I’m not saying there aren’t huge structural issues, or leeches on the system. But it’s fundamentally hard. Taking care of just a few others will absolutely drain a professional, and paying them a livable wage + tax/benefits, with no other expenses whatsoever, will drain savings of those taken care of.
I think you misunderstood the OP. Yes, taking care of our elders can be a very exhausting task. But those of us trained in taking care of them should not be paid a sub standard living wage while the nursing homes (and their managers/owners/w-e) get paid the big bucks.
Basically, with the world’s current demographic trajectory, an absolutely massive chunk of global production needs to be allocated towards such caregivers and the elderly. There’s no way around it.
And yes, the management structure is completely screwed up, but I’m just saying that’s not seeing the forest through the trees. It masks the bigger issue. If you eliminated every single manager, every ancillary position, every investor or owner, it wouldn’t even be close to enough.
Do y’all really think managers make “big bucks”? Don’t get me wrong, most management is living the 90’s middle class life in 2026. But when did that become aspirational?
I still remember the Simpsons being the representation of a poor family. Now they are high class. That shit is not managers fault. Most managers are just working to not lose what they have while supporting their people as much as they can.
Huh, I always thought the Simpsons contrasted the US national projection of a mostly flat “middle class” society against the strict reality of its own socioeconomic classes. Simpsons being lower middle class (what I offhanded called poor), families like the Flanders being solidly middle class, and families like Dr. Hibbert being upper middle class. This was further contrasted through the display of Mr. Burns being very clearly wealthy.
My point was that the Simpsons live a life that is no longer achievable even by the average “upper middle class” family. A doctor may be able to support three kids and a stay at home spouse while owning two cars and a home, but not in most parts of the country.
That said, I was a kid when I watched those episodes, so I’ll have to look again.
And to my original point, most managers are not making an income that gives them upward or even lateral mobility. They are mostly just trying to avoid getting fired. Add in that HR has most actual power, and hides behind the front facing manager (who has no actual power), and you have a shell game of authority and responsibility that supports keeping everyone “under control.”
This is a naive understanding of where the money goes. The corporate owners of nursing homes could make less profit. It would be ideal if those leeches didn’t exist but we still live in a capitalist world, so they won’t be going anywhere soon, unfortunately.
…Because it’s ridiculously labor intensive? And emotionally draining?
Have yall ever had to take care of someone really old, with failing health? Or really young?
I’m not saying there aren’t huge structural issues, or leeches on the system. But it’s fundamentally hard. Taking care of just a few others will absolutely drain a professional, and paying them a livable wage + tax/benefits, with no other expenses whatsoever, will drain savings of those taken care of.
I think you misunderstood the OP. Yes, taking care of our elders can be a very exhausting task. But those of us trained in taking care of them should not be paid a sub standard living wage while the nursing homes (and their managers/owners/w-e) get paid the big bucks.
That doesn’t fix the cost issue, though.
Basically, with the world’s current demographic trajectory, an absolutely massive chunk of global production needs to be allocated towards such caregivers and the elderly. There’s no way around it.
And yes, the management structure is completely screwed up, but I’m just saying that’s not seeing the forest through the trees. It masks the bigger issue. If you eliminated every single manager, every ancillary position, every investor or owner, it wouldn’t even be close to enough.
Do y’all really think managers make “big bucks”? Don’t get me wrong, most management is living the 90’s middle class life in 2026. But when did that become aspirational?
I still remember the Simpsons being the representation of a poor family. Now they are high class. That shit is not managers fault. Most managers are just working to not lose what they have while supporting their people as much as they can.
No, my friend. The Simpsons were middle class. Go watch it again and show me evidence otherwise.
they’re explicitly upper lower middle class folk
Huh, I always thought the Simpsons contrasted the US national projection of a mostly flat “middle class” society against the strict reality of its own socioeconomic classes. Simpsons being lower middle class (what I offhanded called poor), families like the Flanders being solidly middle class, and families like Dr. Hibbert being upper middle class. This was further contrasted through the display of Mr. Burns being very clearly wealthy.
My point was that the Simpsons live a life that is no longer achievable even by the average “upper middle class” family. A doctor may be able to support three kids and a stay at home spouse while owning two cars and a home, but not in most parts of the country.
That said, I was a kid when I watched those episodes, so I’ll have to look again.
And to my original point, most managers are not making an income that gives them upward or even lateral mobility. They are mostly just trying to avoid getting fired. Add in that HR has most actual power, and hides behind the front facing manager (who has no actual power), and you have a shell game of authority and responsibility that supports keeping everyone “under control.”
This is a naive understanding of where the money goes. The corporate owners of nursing homes could make less profit. It would be ideal if those leeches didn’t exist but we still live in a capitalist world, so they won’t be going anywhere soon, unfortunately.