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        I agree, but how? This kind of thing tends to scare off the less committed/ Unable to commit for risk of loosing a stable life. I’m not in that camp and stand firmly against the evil fascists, but how do we get people to Amp it up? How do we get people to come armed? Not shoot but to discurage normal anti-protest tactics? How do we ensure others don’t suffer these same fates if not worse?

        I have only guesses and I’m not an expert so any ellaboration would be welcome.

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          Not everyone can be in the same level of organizing, and that’s fine. For those who can, joining a communist party that engages with the people, and correctly brings them up to their level of political awareness and analysis, is what sets up the basis of a successful revolutionary apparatus.

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    A brief google search suggests he was arrested for being part of Antifa/evidence obstruction?

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    Corruptly Concealing a Document or Record, by transporting a box containing numerous Antifa materials, such as insurrection planning, anti-law enforcement, anti-government, and anti-immigration enforcement documents and propaganda from Sanchez Estrada’s residence to a location in Denton, Texas, intending to conceal the box’s contents and impair its availability for use in a federal grand jury and federal criminal proceeding.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/leader-antifa-cell-members-north-texas-sentenced-100-years-prison-terrorist-attack-ice

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    I just looked this up. Why are anti-fascists now looked at as terrorists? Isn’t it good to be against fascism? I am a little confused at this whole thing. Could someone explain in layman’s terms.

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      At the risk of sounding glib, but I’m completely serious, the US state is fascist. It’s not about good or bad, it’s about the state cracking down on its opposition. And it’s not just now. Opposing fascism ‘too early’ in the ww2 period before the US joined the war, say, by supporting the leftists fighting in Spain would get you targeted for repression in the purges of the 50’s we call ‘the red scare.’

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      antifacism seeks to disrupt the status quo. their messaging could be anything, national socialism wasn’t actually socialism. people don’t believe we are under fascist rule. all they see is a group of individuals seeking to disrupt the status quo and rock the boat which is analogous to terrorism. Hope you weren’t just being willfully ignorant, as understanding the mindsets of people who aren’t terminally online is important to actual change

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        Antifa isn’t an organization. You’re “against fascism”. That’s it. It isn’t a statement about being ‘for’ anything, that’s usually the other side of the person’s sign. Fact is, fuck fascism, details unnecessary.

        I’m antifa, I’m “against fascism”.

        I’m also antishootingmyselfintheface, antitakingmeth, and I’ve been antiexcessivegrassinmyyard for almost 20 years now.

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          I am highly disappointed in otherwise intelligent people, who I align with repeat this tired response. I never said it was an organization, I know what antifa is and isn’t, and yeah I’m antifacist but this messaging and logic tells you you didn’t really want to address my comment. I said this fails to even attempt to reach the understanding of the average US citizen. If you think like this, and aren’t just repeating the responses you’ve seen online, I don’t think you understand people, period. Acting like antifa is not a modern movement that subscribes to an ideology and is something that is just to be expected of a good member of society is why people are easily convinced of the fascists attacks on the idea under that name and enables the messaging of the movement to be handwaved or persecuted.

          I’m anti-entertaining that communicating this way is common sense.

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            You claim to be anti fascist while still regurgitating every fascist talking point against anti-fascism.

            Don’t hide behind whatever false equivalency you try and claim. Own your opinions with your whole chest and just own that you’re a fascist. I’ve seen you on this site long enough to know what you are.

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            I’ll skip the insults and your self-masturbation and get right to the meat, if you don’t mind.

            Acting like antifa is not a modern movement that subscribes to an ideology and is something that is just to be expected of a good member of society is why people are easily convinced of the fascists attacks on the idea under that name and enables the messaging of the movement to be handwaved or persecuted.

            Acting like it is makes its own motivations seem like those deemed by a collective and not individuals making their own minds to decide for themselves (and gives the ICEstapo something to target). If a large number of people see something as fascist, it doesn’t make them ‘members of antifa’, if anything, they just have a concience and common sense. What’s the old addadge. “Reality has a leftist bias?”

            But that’s all we’re both doing for our own headcanons, isn’t it? ‘Acting’. Neither you or I can speak on what antifa is for everyone claiming it. It doesn’t even represent its own manifesto to question, so it feels a bit irresponsible and ego-driven to deem a purpose for it when we’re just two raindrops in antifa’s gutter, leaderless and self-enlisted.

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              I’ve read the wiki page, but thanks for linking it again. The fact that the meme originated in China, but spread like wildfire in the west, needs to be examined. Xi Jinping is incredibly popular in China, legitimately so. A picture comparing Xi to Winnie and Obama to Tigger showed up online. There wasn’t mass protest against Xi Jinping or anything.

              What then exploded was western usage of the meme, beyond its origins, and in a new context. Largely among the anti-communist right, vile depictions and distortions of Xi Jinping began to take place, creating a racialized caricature. By this point the meme faded away near entirely in China, and instead became a symbol of hatred towards Xi Jinping in particular and the PRC in general in the west.

              The western obsession with depicting Xi Jinping as a yellow bear is what is racist, and hiding behind the fact that the first iteration of the meme came from China, before it became distorted by the west, is a “get out of jail free” card for racists. It isn’t only communists that can correctly identify this, marginalized groups that have been caricaturized by westerners can also see this easily.

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                  You sound like you have the privilege of being white and not having to deal with racism. Being anti-communist and being racist tend to have much overlap. I have been racially abused and heard more orientalist nonsense then you could even imagine during my brief stint on Reddit and from many people from anti-communist instances such as the one you post from.

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                  I said “again” as in I had seen it before and you gave me a chance to revisit it and confirm I’m correct.

                  As for Statesians loving to shit on communism, this is correct. Statesians are also wildly racist, and usually combine the two. Orientalism runs deep, and as such depictions of Eastern socialism usually involve deep degrees of racial caricature. Other vile memes involve depicting Chinese people as “bugmen” and as a “hive-mind,” which combines racist views of Asians with anti-communism. I’m sure you know this, you’re just refusing to see it because it’s uncomfortable to admit after you defended a racist caricature.

                  If you just learned about why Chinese people view the meme as racist, why not just change your views? Is your anti-communist thrill so great as to prevent you from growing as a person? That’s a rhetorical question, you don’t need to answer. I just recommend you reflect, rather than deflect.

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    dont worry, im sure bluemaga will be all over this! Righttttt after november for some reason, vote bluemaga-no-matter-who!/s

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    What person are we talking about here? Sorry I came into the comments to look for the article and I didn’t find anything

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      After a three-week trial, a jury found eight of nine protesters guilty of “providing material support to terrorists”, among other crimes. For the Sotos, this “material support” included owning a “printing press” used to print anarchist zines and being part of a leftist book club, the federal government argued. The couple had already left the scene by the time guns were drawn. All eight of the defendants sentenced so far have received unusually harsh sentences – 30 to 100 years – essentially life in prison.

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/jun/24/prairieland-texas-ice-protests-zines

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          The book club is one of the best ways to start a political party! Lenin and the Bolsheviks started off as a reading circle. Prolewiki hosts a guide to organizing, and one of the primary texts goes over how to start a study circle and why this is a great pre-party formation.

          This isn’t to say I think it’s a good thing that these groups are being targeted. It’s the opposite. My point is that the establishment understands that knowledge and organizing are dangerous to their power.

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        Bless you for providing an article. Spreading the word to my friends. They never belive me about stuff like this.

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      In what way is Trump communist? I can see the comparisons to Hitler, given that both are genocidal fascists, but if Trump was like Stalin and Mao the US Empire would no longer exist and a new socialist state would be in its place. Indigenous peoples would have their land back, and tech billionaires would be subject to the firing squad.

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          Stalin and Mao were both committed communists. How is Trump quoting them? Is the context the same as when Stalin and Mao said them? Trump undeniably serves Statesian finance and tech capital, Stalin and Mao served the proletariat and peasantry.

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              Neither Stalin nor Mao were “tyrannical dictators,” even the CIA said Stalin was closer to a “captain of a team” than an iron-fisted tyrant:

              Even in Stalin’s time there was collective leadership. The Western idea of a dictator within the Communist setup is exaggerated. Misunderstandings on that subject are caused by lack of comprehension of the real nature and organization of the Communist power structure. Stalin, although holding wide powers, was merely the captain of a team and it seems obvious that Khrushchev will be the new captain. However, it does not appear that any of the present leaders will rise to the stature of Lenin and Stalin,so that it will be safer to assume that developments in Moscow will be along the lines of what is called collective leadership, unless Western policies force the Soviets ‘to streamline their power organization. The present situation is the most favorable from the point of view of upsetting the Communist dictatorship since the death of Stalin.

              From Comments on the Change in Soviet Leadership.

              As for Stalin and Mao “hating the news,” this is similarly wrong. Stalin and Mao opposed bourgeois media, essentially outlets like Radio Free Europe and Radio Free Asia, where CIA-funded reporters would blast propaganda from the west into socialist countries. News was still reported on, even Statesian reporters like Anna Louise Strong would meet with Stalin, Zhou Enlai, Mao Zedong, and more.

              In other words, an entirely different context, and not at all a quote from Stalin and Mao.

              As for Trump, he is a billionaire. He serves his class, and the ones who fund him, imperialists and tech giants. This is why he took Elon Musk, Boeing execs, and more to the PRC and tried to get a good deal (which failed). Trump isn’t “trying to consolidate power,” he wants profits, which come from advancing the interests of finance and tech capital. When you erase class analysis, life appears to be an absurdity.

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      Trump = Hitler v2 would be more apt?

      Stalin + Mao fought against fascists, right?

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          joined the alies and fought the axis powers in WW2

          Really funny way of saying did 80% of the work of fighting the Nazis after having begged for an anti nazi alliance for close to a decade while being constantly shot down by the UK, France, and Poland who were more interested in appeasement and hoping Germany would destroy the new socialist state.

          Also your understanding of Stalin and Mao is poor to put it mildly.

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              Mao, on the other hand only took up arms against Japan.

              An invading and occupying imperialist force that was busily conducting war crimes. How the hell did you expect China to aid the Western front, exactly? The West was content to let Japan do whatever it wanted to the rest of East Asia so long as they didn’t attack their colonial holdings. Only then did they actually step in.

              Trotting out with the damn Molotrov-Ribbentrop Pact is old hat by this point, but now you’re inventing new ways to be anticommunist. I’d almost be impressed if I weren’t so thoroughly disgusted.

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              The communists were never allies with the Nazis. A non-aggression pact is not an alliance. The communists spent the decade prior trying to form an anti-Nazi coalition force, such as the Anglo-French-Soviet Alliance which was pitched by the communists and rejected by the British and French. The communists hated the Nazis from the beginning, as the Nazi party rose to prominence by killing communists and labor organizers, cemented bourgeois rule, and was violently racist and imperialist, while the communists opposed all of that.

              When the many talks of alliances with the west all fell short, the Soviets reluctantly agreed to sign a non-agression pact, in order to delay the coming war that everyone knew was happening soon. Throughout the last decade, Britain, France, and other western countries had formed pacts with Nazi Germany, such as the Four-Power Pact, the German-French-Non-Agression Pact, and more. Molotov-Ribbentrop was unique among the non-agression pacts with Nazi Germany in that it was right on the eve of war, and was the first between the USSR and Nazi Germany. It was a last resort, when the west was content from the beginning with working alongside Hitler.

              Harry Truman, in 1941 in front of the Senate, stated:

              If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia, and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible, although I don’t want to see Hitler victorious under any circumstances.

              Not only that, but it was the Soviet Union that was responsible for 4/5ths of total Nazi deaths, and winning the war against the Nazis. The Soviet Union did not agree to invade Poland with the Nazis, it was about spheres of influence and red lines the Nazis should not cross in Poland. When the USSR went into Poland, it stayed mostly to areas Poland had invaded and annexed a few decades prior. Should the Soviets have let Poland get entirely taken over by the Nazis, standing idle? The West made it clear that they were never going to help anyone against the Nazis until it was their turn to be targeted.

              Churchill did not take the Nazis as a serious threat, and was horrified when FDR and Stalin made a joke about executing Nazis. Churchill starved millions to death in India in preventable ways, and had this to say about it:

              I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits.

              Meanwhile, the soviet famine in the 1930s was the last major famine outside of wartime in the USSR, because collectivized farming achieved food security in a region where famine was common. As a consequence, life expectancy doubled:

              The Nazis and soviets were never allies. A non-aggression pact is not an alliance, and the non-aggression pact between the soviets and the Nazis was unique among the other non-aggression pacts in that it was on the eve of war. The soviets knew war was coming, and so bought more time to prepare.

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              Your knowledge of history matches your knowledge of Stalin and Mao (inadequate is a fitting term).

              The non aggression pact was necessary to delay the inevitable long enough to industrialise post civil war and build up a force to fight the Nazis largely alone as the western powers had continuously refused to form an anti nazi pact since 1933. The soviets were also the last major power to sign a non aggression pact with the Nazis. The USSR broke the nazi beast took the majority of the casualties and killed the majority of the Nazis.

              The USSR spent years trying to build an anti-Nazi alliance. 1933 they proposed collective security at the League of Nations. 1935 they signed mutual defense pacts with France and Czechoslovakia. Spring 1939 they sat in Moscow for months begging Britain and France for a real triple alliance. The West stalled, refused to guarantee the Baltics, refused to let the Red Army cross Poland to actually fight Hitler. Poland’s elite, more scared of workers than of Nazis, said no too and instead joined Hitler in attacking Czechoslovakia. The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact happened because liberals handed Hitler Eastern Europe rather than work with socialists.

              When Soviet troops entered eastern Poland September 17 1939, the Polish state had already collapsed. Government fled to Romania September 15. Warsaw was burning. The army was broken. The lands the USSR moved into? Not Poland proper. Territories Poland had seized and occupied by force in 1919-1921 from Belarus, Ukraine, and Lithuania. Moving in to secure this land also saved millions from extermination.