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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 day ago

China is building 75 solar parks in Cuba, and the island’s power crisis is becoming an infrastructure experiment

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China is building 75 solar parks in Cuba, and the island’s power crisis is becoming an infrastructure experiment

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 day ago
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China's solar parks are reshaping Cuba's power grid as the island races to reduce blackouts and fuel dependence.
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    The EU should be taking notes

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    Fuck yeah.

    Imagine if america built solar panels instead of bomb negotiation. But the american admin seems hell bent in making the worst choices. Good on china for showing how to do international policy.

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      Imagine if america built solar panels instead of bomb negotiation.

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      The US is going all in on the doomed oil and coal economy, and going to continue to use the pursuit of oil as a cause for war, until its too weak to do so. Meanwhile the PRC and countries allied to it are transitioning to the green energy future: solar, wind, nuclear fission and fusion.

      The long-term trend will be that the countries that are able to harness more energy, will outpace those that don’t. So soon it’ll be the US and Europe playing catchup to Asia, Africa, and Latin America.

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        The US is going all in on the doomed oil and coal economy

        It’s not. The U.S. adds approximately 40 GW of new renewable energy capacity per year, with 27 GW of that in solar and 6 GW in Wind. Over 90% of newly added grid capacity is green, largely thanks to the speed and scale of clean energy expansion relative to alternatives.

        Where the US sucks is in retiring older facilities in order to cut emissions over time. We’re just producing an enormous energy glut. The carbon we emit is plateauing, but it’s never going to decline on these terms.

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          From what I could find, the US has a miniscule amount of green energy, and its not increasing in proportion to fossil fuels like natural gas: https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=62444

          According to EIA data, the US is currently only ~9% clean energy sources, and 91% fossil fuels.

          This is way behind the world average for clean energy, which is 43%, and the PRC’s which is 42% despite producing most of the consumer goods for the whole world.

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            the US has a miniscule amount of green energy, and its not increasing in proportion to fossil fuels

            In 2023, petroleum remained the most-consumed fuel in the United States, as it has been for the past 73 years, and renewables exceeded coal for the first time in about 140 years.

            …

            Electricity generation from zero-carbon sources such as wind and solar has increased rapidly in recent years. In 2022, U.S. energy consumption from renewable sources surpassed that from nuclear for the first time since 1984. U.S. nuclear energy consumption began in the late 1950s and has remained fairly constant since the early 2000s.

            :-/

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        as a cause excuse for war

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          while the correction is a fine one, comrade Dessalines is a communist, they are not downplaying the evils of the US empire


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    I didn’t know until recently that the US had such an effective blockade, so enemies of the US are Cuba’s only hope, this is great to see.

    https://youtu.be/5Dvu7qiM5rg

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      If you want to work for a major American corporation outside of the US (e.g., in the EU), you may run into trouble if you’ve ever been to Cuba (or a few other so-called terror states).

      What are they worried about? There’s no reason to go that far, other than ensuring deaths of as many Cubans as possible, and the eventual collapse of the entire country.

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        What are they worried about?

        Another 9/11

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          One can dream…

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          I’d love to know what your cuba attacks america fantasy is

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          It should hurt to be this dumb.

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          Hahahahaha

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          in your world did cuba or a communist or even a leftist did 9-11? in mine it was a cia trained saudi arabian guy

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          We need infinite amount of 9/11s upon corporate ghouls.

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    I wouldn’t be surprised if China might also be supplying weapons to Cuba.

    What’s up with the down votes? I’m hoping they’re armed to the teeth if the US tries any shit.

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      I wouldn’t be surprised if China might also be supplying weapons to Cuba.

      Another lemmy.world banger.

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      Here’s hoping right

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      I hope so. If they’d been able to keep the missiles the Soviets had stationed there, they wouldn’t be in this mess.

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      I hope they do so much, they had it so hard

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      Hopefully enough weapons to scare US of Fucking A shit its pants.

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      hopefully china gives enough weapons to cripple the US energy production , when US eventually invades Cuba

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      Fingers crossed they do

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      sure hope so

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        so that the usa has an excuse to invade?

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          The US is going to invade regardless, lol.

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          US needs an excuse to invade countries ? since when ?

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    And what do they get in return for this?

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      Cubans have great cigars. 💨

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        Rum, too.

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      money or resources i guess ? thats how it usually goes but im not an expert

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      To weaken/further humiliate the US? To market their green technology? For humanitarian purposes?

      Take your pick, it’s some combination of the three.

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        It’s definitely all three, but I just want to point out that Cuba I believe has more doctors per capita than any other country and sends medical aid all over the world. They developed their own Covid vaccine because they had no access to the others thanks to the blockade. It’s not like they have nothing to offer.

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          humanitarian purposes

          China, there’s this people in Middle East… Hello?

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      Isolating the usa

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      deleted by creator

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    That’s based. But didn’t Cuba basically rescind their Communist policies recently because of a lack of international support and the US sanctions having crippled the country

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      You should listen to this podcast episode which argues that Cuba did not, in fact, “rescind its communist policies”, and that Cuba has long been navigating the constraints of the blockade in various ways, for decades

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        Wow I just listened to a two hour podcast of three people doing ZERO mentions of how China and Russia are dropping the ball on international solidarity because apparently that doesn’t exist. Apparently the USSR disappeared and now Cuba just has nobody to count on well gee that sucks. Gotta implement capitalist policies now!

        Am I glad I don’t listen to these Grahan Platner fans often. BadEmpanada doesn’t care about pissing off some of his audience. These guys are farming.

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      They did no such thing.

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        They sure did. https://youtu.be/n7dvICgJYuI?t=4m17s

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          Bad Empanada is fucking embarrassing 💀

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            Adhom #25

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          I can’t tell if this video itself or your uncritically posting it is the bigger “oof” moment.

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          https://socialistchina.org/2026/06/25/cubas-economic-reforms-and-the-prospects-for-socialist-renewal/

          Please stop spreading ultra nonsense

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            I asked and received. Thank you.

            Edit:

            Generalised subsidies that benefit the relatively affluent and the poor alike are to be replaced by assistance targeted at the most vulnerable – retirees, families with chronically ill children, and impoverished neighbourhoods – but the state’s responsibility for healthcare, education, social security and welfare is unchanged.

            This is the main thing in my mind.

            The reforms unquestionably carry risks. A property market, private banks, large firms and remittance-funded investment will tend to generate a propertied stratum, and in the Cuban case along existing fault lines of access to hard currency and family abroad. None of this should be waved away; it is the real cost of the policy. But the wager is a considered one, and it rests on a proposition that China has spent nearly 50 years testing: that a socialist state which keeps political power, public ownership of the commanding heights and the levers of planning and redistribution in its own hands can use markets and foreign capital to develop without being captured by them.

            I’m unclear on property reforms. Are large swaths of land open to private ownership?

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            This reminded me of that cope article of when China passed the Gaza genocide approval resolution and whaddayaknow

            https://socialistchina.org/2025/11/19/china-explains-its-abstention-in-un-gaza-vote/

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          Yet more examples of splitting. In the span of weeks, BE was promoted to golden god of truth & righteousness, and Cuba demoted to capitalist pigs.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idealization_and_devaluation

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            Of course it’s adhominems. Are you going to keep defending the Serbs too? https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-finds-new-breakaway-allies-bosnias-serbs

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              Are you going to keep repeating NATO slander against the Serbs?

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                NATO loves these guys

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          Next you’ll be telling me that China and Vietnam abandoned socialism because they use markets.

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            China abandoned socialism because they use markets.

            No, but because most money, gdp (3/4), companies and work (80%) etc is fully privately owned with no state ownership at all, because the workers rights are not improving (gig economy booming, retirement going up, vacation being 5 days per decade of work experience, no practical sick leave, the second employment system), because giant companies are slapped on the wrist for transgression and personal C-levels punishments for shit they do like Pinduoduo

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              workers rights are not improving

              My polish nationalist friend we meet again. Here you once again remain pushing falsehoods.

              gig economy booming

              Gig economy being actively cracked down on and regulated to the benefit of workers:

              https://hrss.suzhou.gov.cn/jsszhrss/zxfgk/202405/9acd0c4465e24bfeab20419cab150233.shtml

              https://ldjy.xizang.gov.cn/xwzx/cjyfzzc/202402/t20240226_404989.html

              https://ipc.court.gov.cn/zh-cn/news/view-2849.html

              https://www.court.gov.cn/zixun/xiangqing/450651.html

              https://fgk.chinatax.gov.cn/zcfgk/c100013/c5241790/content.html

              https://chrm.mohrss.gov.cn/人社部等六部门部署加强新就业形态劳动纠纷一站/

              https://chinajob.mohrss.gov.cn/h5/c/2024-11-13/418523.shtml

              https://www.news.cn/politics/zywj/20260426/7f994e10f9f14810b899795970007a30/c.html

              retirement going up

              Misleading. Retirement age is being raised gradually over 15 years, while flexible early retirement up to 3 years early remains, delayed retirement requires agreement, special early-retirement protections are retained for hazardous/special work, and older-worker protections are being strengthened. Also, raising retirement from 50 to 55 for women and 60 to 63 for men over a period of 15 years, while life expectancy continues to rise and early-retirement options remain, is not the anti-worker gotcha you seem to think it is.

              https://www.spp.gov.cn/spp/tt/202409/t20240913_666042.shtml

              https://chrm.mohrss.gov.cn/《实施弹性退休制度暂行办法》发布/

              https://big5.www.gov.cn/gate/big5/www.gov.cn/zhengce/202409/content_6974508.htm

              https://english.scio.gov.cn/chinavoices/2025-01/02/content_117641102.html

              vacation being 5 days per decade of work experience

              Misleading again. While it is true that paid annual leave is 5 days after 1-10 years, 10 days after 10-20 years, and 15 days after 20+ years, public holidays and rest days do not count against annual leave. This adds 13 days of leave off the bat. A more accurat set of numbers would be 18, 23, 28 which is an entirely reasonable amount of leave. (Plus a few extra for minority groups to celebrate our major holidays).

              https://publicservices.hrss.tj.gov.cn/ecdomain/framework/zcydt/fbbafimfopkibboikmfajfanojgaanpa/fadgmmdgopkjbboikmfajfanojgaanpa.do?disp_template=ccnjmfhhefpibbodjemcncephdmpjlhn&fileid=1092&isfloat=1&kbms=1&moduleIDPage=fadgmmdgopkjbboikmfajfanojgaanpa&siteIDPage=zcydt

              https://xzfg.moj.gov.cn/front/law/detail?LawID=1737

              The 2025 consumption-boost plan also explicitly calls for strict implementation of paid annual leave, making paid annual leave enforcement a focus of supervision, protecting rest rights, and prohibiting illegal extension of working hours:

              https://www.news.cn/politics/zywj/20250316/12731c57b4e547f99c55606d9950bebd/c.html

              no practical sick leave

              False. China has a statutory medical-treatment period for illness or non-work injury of 3 to 24 months depending on working years and years with the employer. During that period, sick-pay/disease-relief pay must be paid and cannot be below 80% of the local minimum wage. Employers also cannot simply dismiss workers during the prescribed medical period.

              https://rsj.gz.gov.cn/zmhd/cjwt/ldbz/content/post_10319021.html

              https://chinajob.mohrss.gov.cn/h5/c/2021-06-10/309418.shtml

              https://www.gjxfj.gov.cn/gjxfj/xxgk/fgwj/flfg/webinfo/2016/03/1460585589931971.htm

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              please stop smoking crack, it’s not good for you https://www.piie.com/research/piie-charts/2024/chinas-private-sector-has-lost-ground-state-sector-has-gained-share-among

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                market capitalization

                gdp

                You do know those are not the same? Its literally like saying that USA citizens live good life because S&P is over 50k.

                Edit: and if you don’t believe me about gdp, here you have PRC press release from 3 years ago about Privately owned enterprises (POE means no government shares) http://english.scio.gov.cn/m/pressroom/2022-06/29/content_78295756.htm , ans here you have Daecheng Institute listing pure State Owned Enterperprise GDP https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/720545740 at below 30%.

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                  Go read up on the concept of the commanding heights of the economy. Not to mention the fact that the party owns the golden share in all major companies, and has members on the board. You could watch an explanation of how the economy in China actually works here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E89qUXTX-k

                  Or even better, actually read a book https://redletterspp.com/products/the-east-is-still-red or two https://1804books.com/products/chinas-great-road would be a new experience for you.

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              That sounds more like Worst Korea than China or Vietnam.

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            The Cuban social system is not being abandoned because they wanted to but because the US successfully imposed it on Cuba.

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              Cuban social system isn’t being abandoned period. Please stop spreading ultra nonsense on here.

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                What do you even think the world ultra means?

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                  The word ultra is used to refer to idealist leftists who are divorced from the real world and can’t understand the concept of having to make compromises. It’s the people Lenin wrote this book for, specifically this chapter https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/ch08.htm

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          It had to be a BadEmpanada video of course. His entire channel is dedicated to attacking other leftists for not being perfect platonic ideals of communism as he understands it. He would accuse Karl Marx of being a liberal if he lived in the same time period.

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            BE should stick to the one thing he can do well, making fun of Zionists. But I guess the holy algorithm rewards the other things better.

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              Yes videos about Cuba do soooo well on the algorithm.

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            All the while he spreads imperial propaganda about China and Russia/Ukraine.

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            Post BE video

            90% of the reactions are adhoms

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              BE is a twitter-poisoned ultraleft who denounces every socialist country : China, Cuba, Vietnam, etc. He has no materialist understanding of socialism and isn’t to be trusted on any topic just because he correctly opposes Israel.

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                Crazy guy he doesn’t like Graham Platner with Nazi tattooos murdering kids and DSA members who compromise with genocide.

                And he doesn’t think every single thing China or Russia does is good and thinks people should have more international solidarity. Craziest guy on the planet. Absolutely insane.

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                  Being anti-Israel and not apologizing for murderous imperialists like Platner is an extremely low bar (one that much of the compatible left in imperialist countries don’t clear, but still). I don’t recommend getting your politics from youtubers or streamers, but from actual Marxists / MLs. There are plenty out there doing great work, writing and organizing, who don’t spend all their time getting in pointless fights on twitter, and denouncing every socialist project.

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          I’m also unclear on the ins and outs of market reforms in Cuba, and would like an analysis or few. In the meantime, I keep this comment in mind:

          https://hexbear.net/comment/7271699

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            Everyone agrees it’s bad but people are very upset BE points out that the Soviet Union had high levels of international solidarity which gave Cuba a necessary lifeline against US imperialism, but Russia and China are letting the US dictate the terms on Cuba now.

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              Russia has been capitalist for a long time, but not imperialist. Cuba is grown up now. Both are helping. What are they supposed to do, say: do this and that? Go in and take over and run things? Cuba is sovereign. This is a Cuban issue for Cuban people.

              Yes what the US does, did is slimey af. And if China or Russia went in telling Cuba they have to do this or that to get assistance, that’s… imperialism.

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                What are they supposed to do, say: do this and that?

                Pass through the US imposed oil blockade and tell the US to go shove it instead of abiding by US imperialist terms.

                Will it come at costs to their own countries? Certainly. But if everyone just thinks of themselves the US will divide and conquer the whole world with ease. First was Venezuela. Now Cuba.

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                  Pass through the US imposed oil blockade and tell the US to go shove it instead of abiding by US imperialist terms.

                  Do you imagine Cuba has no say in this? Has it occurred to you maybe Cuba doesn’t want this?

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      It’s a common misconception that socialism is an equal distribution of poverty.

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        Stupid Fidel Castro amirite

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          From here:


          Gawronski: But China, even if it’s remained socialist politically, is trying to move away from socialism economically. On the other hand, Cuba still seems to be solidly socialist. Isn’t it difficult to be the only socialist country when everything around you is changing?

          Castro: I think China is a socialist country, and Vietnam is a socialist country as well. And they insist that they’ve introduced all the necessary reforms, precisely to stimulate development and to continue advancing towards the objectives of socialism. There are no chemically pure regimes or systems.

          In Cuba, for example, we have many forms of private property. We have tens of thousands of landowners who own, in some cases, up to 45 hectares; in Europe they would be considered latifundistas. Practically all Cubans own their own homes and, what’s more, we are more than open to foreign investment. But none of this detracts from Cuba’s socialist character.

          What’s certain is that we will never make the mistake of destroying the country to make something new. We will not make the mistake of plunging our country into chaos, into anarchy, to solve the problems we have, because that would be the only way to never solve them.

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    More like 75 MSS SIGINT transceivers.

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        Thank you for the new profile picture, lol

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      Ok and? If they still deliver megawatts of clean power to Cuba who cares if they also snitch your porn habits to Xi Jinping? What’s China gonna do with your data that’s worse than what the US is presently doing? Or did you miss the reports on how ICE is showing up at people’s homes to threaten them for anti-Trump posting?

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        How does one snitch their porn habits to Xi Jinping? That sounds hot.

        Oh yeah. Asking for a friend who wants to help them out maneuver the US.

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          First you announce you have state secrets to any nearby stuff made in China. Anything will do, for instance your iPhone or your router or your fridge or your furniture or your hand soap. Then list off whatever you jorked to most recently. They know the older stuff already. To terminate the uplink say “Tiananmen Square” and the agent on the other side of the Great Firewall will have the connection automatically severed by his own CCP secret police monitor.

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          Personally i bought a chinese roomba and I get to feel the thrill of patriotic exhibitionism every time it sees me walk around naked

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      How do you see the U.S. provably do all the shit like this that you think China does, rather overtly for the sake of profits for its corporations, and still think to yourself that things like this are either 1) true or 2) something that you should give a shit about anyway?

      Like it’s been literally 200 years of looting the world for profits and there’s so much information known about this, like, from admission from the United states’s own historical documents (in case you’re too stupid to watch what they do and understand their motive, like a grade schooler could) but you’re all over here freaking out about Chinese solar panels spying on you, maybe, for reasons I’m sure you could never begin to articulate

      I wanted to just tell you to die, so, this is me being overly polite to you

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      How do people survive with this much lack of critical thinking

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      I mean…. Even if that IS true (which like lol)…. Who gives a shit? I would rather be spied on then fucking dead?

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      ngl fam you probably should have left after that AI thread of yours

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      What do you get when you are stationed at the US embassy in Cuba and you drink too many Cuba Libres?

      Havana hangover syndrome.

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      Y’all really believe this shit huh?

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