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I stumbled across this link in the comment of another post, and thought it was super promising!
Someone mentioned something about in the US, this would be illegal due to DRM laws - not sure about the specifics of this, but regardless an open source printer seems like something we’ve needed for ages, as printers are something that always seem like way more of a headache then they need to be. It seems like such a simple technology that has existed for quite some time, but they are always such a pain to deal with. (Maybe it’s just my bad luck with printers?)
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It wont work worse as any other printer
It’s not like the bar is anywhere but on the floor though
AWESOME!!!
The images and videos scared me a bit, thinking this only supports rolls, but seemingly it does also work with A4.
It looks like it is a roll as an input, but the printer has an integrated cutter.
It clearly says…
Supported paper formats
North American letter, tabloid, and 11-inch wide paper roll European A4, A3, and 297 mm-wide paper roll
I guess then A4 is supported as an input.
Yeah, that’s what I read.
Looks like I was wrong. There is animation showing that it cuts A4 out of the roll and no pictures without roll.
But I found one with A4 loaded here: https://www.opentools.studio/
The roll+cutter allows printing in both A4 and A3 which is amazing.
Printhead compatibility: HP 63 (US), HP 302 (Europe)
Sounds like it comes with a refillable cartridge, but you can also use off the shelf HP cartridges.
And since there’s no DRM, 3rd party cartridges will work too.
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The only thing attractive is the possibility to print unusual (endless!) formats. Everything else is just two stepper motors in a case with an hp inkjet head.
“Coming soon” for months now, I’ll believe it when I see it.
Could have a single picture of it that isn’t a render, to start
Those are photographs…
You don’t use “soon” in geologic time?
In dog
yearsIt’s actually a measure of distance.
I don’t think DRM is a thing for this in the US, since it’s using all original software and parts. I could be wrong, but that’s how I read this.
I think it’s about printers being required by law to (covertly) watermark copies as such, and make it somewhat traceable. This is supposedly to prevent duplication of protected works (books?) but also to prevent someone just using it to print money (badly, probably).
To my knowledge all major brands incorporate something like this.
In Germany there is an extra “tax“ for printers, because you could print copyrighted sheet music.
I am not kidding. (GEMA for anyone wondering)
required by law to (covertly) watermark copies
What a ridiculous rule that is – and you know someone dramatically shouted “won’t someone think of the children” somewhere in its passing.
I think it’s about printers being required by law
I didn’t see anything about being required by law. Yes, all major brands probably do this, but for different reasons than required by law. Also, what about the lesser brands, are they required by law or can they skirt the law somehow? This printer is not a major brand. Again, not a lawyer, but I don’t see how this is a problem. Also, it’s going to be coming from France.
Yeah, “not legal in the US due to DRM laws” makes zero fucking sense in this context
Bring back the Scrolls!
I’ve been seeing this thing for months and there’s been no updates. Is there any word on release date/price, I really how this isn’t vaporware.
inkjet :(
HP Inkjet cartridges though
there is so. much. shit. already about, we don’t need another one, like this thing and fairphone and framework and whatever. we’re drowning in already produced things, nerfed by their manufacturers into bricks that can and should be repurposed by opensource solutions.
but that’s not where you can make money, so they’re instead latching onto trends, like “open” and “repairable”, both of which are nothingburgers.
a infinitely small percentile of users actually need the newest & best, the rest of us are fine with decade+ old hardware that can serve us a decade more.
not exactly sure what your point is here? Having an open source repairable printer is great
having ANOTHER printer getting manufactured and sold when all the printers we’re ever gonna need are already produced and out there in the world is a thing that’s sorely not needed.
A lot of printers are built to break. Ideally that would be illegal but it isn’t. I haven’t had a printer for years and whenever I look into it I just hate what I can get and continue without one. Having kids I would love to print coloring sheets sometimes so I would love to eventually buy a printer. And then I’d love to use that for decades, so this here does look promising
I don’t really think that the world is free from ever needing a new printer, what kind of take is that? This project promises 3d buildable components that run on a pi? Exactly how does that contribute to global e-waste if that’s your point? PLA plastic biodegrades, pis can be re-used for other stuff, and inkjet cartridges can be refilled. What possible issue could you find with a project that’s open to the public and you can construct yourself??
I really don’t know how to make this simple concept any clearer - there is NO need to make ANY more printers, of ANY kind, be they bio-compostable or not, running on angel tears and rainbows or whatever.
I dumpster dive and over the past six months I got five ancient printers (10-20 year old) that got thrown out, laser, inkjet and multifunction ones. all of them perfectly usable, work fine, easily serviceable (never done that prior to getting them), refillable with the cheapest options available. I struggle to see any application for which those things aren’t good for.
Oh ok, because in the country + area that YOU live in there’s a wealth of printers you can apparently find in dumpsters, and because YOU have both the physical ability and time avaliable to go diving in dumpsters, THE ENTIRE WORLD does not need a new printer??
I need some of whatever you are smoking
I am illustrating how two decades old stuff is still usable and you’re being obtuse.
I don’t think anyone should be smoking that.
I understand why you’re getting downvoted, but at the same time - I completely understand the sentiment. In a perfect world, you’re right, we should be able to reuse what we have and our society is utterly obsessed with consumerism. But being realistic and practical - that’s not going to happen for many reasons, at least not in our lifetime.
But I think that creating something that will last, is repairable, and open source is a step in the right direction and is better than the current alternatives. I’m not saying we shouldn’t continue to advocate and push for the ideals of what you are saying - but we shouldn’t push away progress in the right direction as we fight for those ideals. It doesn’t have to be “one or the other” it can be a multipronged approach that advocates for the ideal scenario while accepting small incremental progress as well.
I’m not saying this specific product is or is not the solution (it might be a terrible product or the people behind the product might have terrible intentions, idk. . . But the idea of products build to last, be repairable, and open for improvement, etc etc is a good step forward in my mind. Ehh, my 2 cents.
How is it, that every time I read an insane take on Lemmy and I look at the username, it’s lemmy.ml? Without exception.
… actually one does need later hardware for a phone that will work on 5G networks.
if i’m understanding you right, you’re saying we should be reusing old, functional hardware instead of producing brand-new shit (which just turns old stuff into ewaste). i agree. if countries repealed anticircumvention, i imagine there would be an industry for upcycling electronics.
The only thing we are missing is a scanner. Now if only we had a FOSH-Scanner (FOSH = Free & Open-Source Hardware)
Just what I was going to say. Yup.
CC BY-NC-SA
Not open printer. Not open source. You will only be able to get replacements from them, worse than some other printer companies…
Not sure why you’re spouting complete bullshit and where your basing those statements on.
It pretty clearly states you’ll be able to 3D print parts yourself. It’s also using a Raspberry Pi inside, which I’m fairly sure you can buy wherever you want, so saying you can only get parts from them is complete bullshit.
Are you a shill for printer companies or something?
NC - non commercial. Nobody is alowed to sell you the printer nor replacements. Yea you can print it yourself, for that 1% that has a printer.
Maybe actually learn to read what this applies too, the website is very clear on this.
Their own parts are open source, the rest are readily available components.
The BY-NC-SA 4.0 is not an open source license. This printer is not open source. Stop calling it. Even if they themselves call it that way, or “open”.
The second most restrictive of the Creative Commons licenses (only behind BY-NC-ND). CC BY-NC-SA is not considered an open source license.
