What the fuck‽ This needs to be banned immediately
Also this is super easy to game
How can you vote as an individual and corporate entity? Could one not just incorporate hundreds of companies just to annihilate other voters?
There are more businesses than people in Delaware. The registered businesses outnumber the population 2:1.
This blatantly renders human voters meaningless without businesses to back your opinion.
Ah, taking a play out of the ol’ “City Of London” book!
What the fuck are we doing Delaware?
Grifting for tax dollars. They are cucks for businesses. There are less people than businesses and the state government knows what side their bread is buttered on
Zappa said something like, "They’ve moved the tables and chairs out of the way and pulled the curtains back so we can see the brick wall at the back of the theater.
Zappa was libertarian, iirc, but that was when the word hadn’t been bastardized, yet.
Delaware itself is just a shell corporation, tbh
Delaware, Inc.
A Delaware Corporation
How? Wouldn’t they have to go through a voter registration process that requires a voter id and ss#, and who casts the vote? The CEO or someone selected from the board?.. and couldn’t some rich asshole just start a whole bunch of corporations to give themselves as many votes as they want? This blatantly goes against the one person one vote principle.
Here’s a fun way to fast track this descent into corporate hell: one vote per share.
I am going to incorporate a new company and issue eleventy billion shares to myself
New rule: incorporating now costs $100,000 per share. Pre-existing corporation are exempt from this fee, of course.
No no no, those rules are for people. Silly peasant. Corporate people don’t have to do those silly things
The wild thing is that because of Delaware’s tax laws, a LOT of businesses are registered in that state. This is honestly bonkers to me.
“A novel ruling,” Christ almighty.
Karsnitz dismissed the lawsuit from Delaware’s Superior Court, citing “the principle of one person/entity/one vote.”
This is how you get people to bring back dragging someone into the street and horsewhipping them. I’m not advocating it, it’s just the natural response some people are going to have to being told corporations get to vote in a state with more corporations than people.
But you can invent entities overnight and without limit. These corpos gotta wait 18 years to vote?
So… if I own a company and spin off… oh, lets say a million shell corporations, have I generated a million voters?
The logic of free speech applying to corporations is that they are an extension of their operators, making restrictions to them effectively restrictions on the operators.
This is way more wild. This gives corporations people-rights distinct from their operators.
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Its not a new idea: the City of London in the U.K. has had one MP chosen by the businesses there since the mid 13th century*. There are businesses with offices there just so they can influence the result.
** Some would say the Norman conquest. The city certainly had special privileges then, but parliament didn’t exist in a recognisable form until Magna Carta.
Tell me more; references?
I can’t find a great reference, but Wikipedia’s page is a good start. Long story short, William the Conqueror never conquered the city of London. After a lengthy seige, they came to an agreement that involved them accepting him as king in return for certain special privileges.
If companies can vote, have free speech rights, and are people then why is it legal for one company to own another? Isn’t that slavery?
I also never see companies go to jail.
Bold of you to assume slavery is illegal in America. Every “prisoner witha job” in a for-profit prison is a victim of the 13th amendment.
Bold of you to make the same exact comment made on Lemmy every single time slavery is mentioned.
So if you’re a CEO you get two votes?
This is what this seems like to me…
No, if you’re a CEO you get as many votes as you can set up shell corporations for.
And given most C-suite consult LLMs heavily, were now on the slope to where robot overlords run the show.
Would it be best? Debatably not. Would it be better than Trump? Of course.
The lawsuit [doesn’t] show “that entity property owners vote sufficiently as a bloc to usually defeat the preferred candidates of natural persons…”
This is “no harm no foul,” except it’s a judge and he’s actually making this argument seriously.
“Persons” don’t vote. Citizens do.
Oooh, this means we can denaturalize and deport corporations now!
Most left for tax havens years ago
Just to drive that home, here are the voting requirements from the Delaware Dept. of Elections:
You may register to vote in Delaware if you:
- Are a citizen of the United States; AND
- Are a resident of Delaware (Delaware is your home); AND
- Will be 18 years old on or before the date of the next General Election.
I don’t see how any of the listed entities could meet those criteria.
Simple, they just won’t bother. They will vote and take everyone to court. That’s the point.
Some corporations are over 18 years of age, so no problem there. And we already know that they’re citizens, while the plebian inhabitants of the country are merely consumers. So it all works out.
So let me get this straight… Corporations have the right to vote all the while the government is trying to purge registered voters from the polls? How long until the fucking corporations end up with multiple votes due to size?
