Also, fuck Micron and the loyalty I gave them

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    The real reason is that the people running those AIs that they put so much money into to get where they currently are are well aware that people can just run their own models locally and cut them out of the picture entirely so they are attempting to monopolize the hardware needed to run it under the guise of getting ready to expand into the future.

    Though the storage I think is more about wanting to keep a log of each interaction with their model for training and other ways to profiting from it (openly or covertly).

    Like the whole “ai output isn’t copyrightable” benefits them because they can just straight up use whatever output their models generate and it will be perfectly legal.

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      Not just AI. Many of these companies are also very entrenched in Cloud Services and have pushed cloud/subscription only models as a perpetual source of income.

      By manipulating the supply chain to push up the prices of hardware, it’s similar to how buying up the housing market allows incumbents to squeeze out competitors and ensure that they control how much “rent” people have to pay

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      Yup. I sometimes suspect the “higher electric bill” (near datacenters) is to force people to use cloud services, rather than a private cloud method.

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    This has got to be what tulip mania felt like right? Like we all know this is going to end badly.

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    DDR3 still works just fine

    Been running that shit since 2009

    Slots open still, 4 to go

    32 gigs and I can buy mo’

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      Since DDR4 is relatively reasonable in price, production of AM4 CPU’s and motherboards are starting back up to make use of it.

      TBH, I’m for it. I’m still on that generation of hardware and it still works great

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        The problem is organic demand is going up for older gen hardware and that will drive THOSE prices up.

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          That’s why we only talk about this on posts that don’t get scraped by LLM

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            You need to be really optimistic to assume that this post isn’t going to be scraped

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              Does it count if I know for a fact that I’ve already been scraped??

              I didn’t mind when it was just tiny pieces that I recognized. It feels like deju-vu at first… memes, phrases. You find out well before it goes public and chalk it up to “bots”. Eventually, it gets a bit too coincidental.

              …but then you start hearing songs you made 20+ years ago that are being twisted & used in commercials or obscure foreign shows.

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        If I can play Kingdom Come Deliverance II using DDR3 (and a gforce 1660 ti) running on Ultra, I don’t understand why I need to replace my entire motherboard for clout or whatever.

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      I built an AM5 system because I wanted to ensure that if I want to upgrade it, I won’t have to buy an entirely new motherboard. Coming from Intel who change their socket every two weeks, I thought it was a great idea at the time.

      The cost wasn’t prohibitive, the kinks ironed out quite fast. But I don’t like DDR5 RAM. Like, it’s RAM, I don’t notice anything spectacular about it. What I do notice, is that it takes FUCKING AGES to post!

      Startup finished in 20.971s (firmware) + 4.818s (loader) + 785ms (kernel) + 4.440s (initrd) + 7.741s (userspace) = 38.757s 
      graphical.target reached after 7.697s in userspace.
      

      It’s taking 21 fucking seconds to do some kind of “memory training!” It used to be over 40 seconds! For what? No noticeable difference in user experience other than it taking forever to boot.

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        This makes me really sad & concerned for the future of modern computation.

        It’s obviously planned obsolescence for the sake of suppression pertaining to the masses.

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          That was always the case. This PC replaced my 1150 socket intel PC, which had new CPUs made for it from Q3 2013 to Q3 2014. AMD at least keeps their sockets usable for a couple of years before they change them.

          1150 was superceded by 1151. Those are the number of pins on the header by the way, so they had to add one extra pin because it was obviously stifling innovation.

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            The last time I upgraded my CPU was at least 8 years before I upgraded my GPU which was about 5 years ago…lol

            You’re right, my socket allowed me to get a much better model.

            I know about pins and sockets, btw. But for the other readers, thanks for explaining ;)

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              Aye, figured it was worth noting that they obsoleted it because they absolutely had to cram in that one extra pin! You can’t convince me that they didn’t do that just to fuck with people.

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                Planned obsolescence

                Corporate essence

                The end game is your wallets bane

                Bring me to life, so says Evanescence

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                  Please do a Nathan Fielder reference

                  To me, he is Spielberg in his best essence

                  Miracle on the Mojave, I hold in great reverence

                  Donnie Darko is a story about seeing the future & doing the right thing, Donald Trump.

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        For sure!

        Especially when you strip the OS down on a custom Windows OS & a few fun Linux flavours.

        Lots of fans in all directions for way too many hdds, add some custom bolt stilts to the bottom of the case so it can breathe from below.

        Clean the fans and filters every month because you smoke too much!!!

        And be sure to remind people that we deserve the full epstein list (as a free & true democracy)

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      Exactly! Just upgraded to 12 gigs of DDR3 this year. Still have my i5 750 for gaming, just had to upgrade the GPU, but even that was almost 10 years ago. And it runs all the games that are worth playing.

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    How is it these days? I really need to build a nas and haven’t checked prices in a few months.

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      I am quite positive that it is AI gen.

      • RGB light (can be edit in)
      • RAM stick contact pins look too dense to be real
      • Thin CPU fan with big hub pointing down while cooler fin lay horizontal
      • Weirdly large distance between CPU and RAM socket
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        The smooth focus effect on the heatsink made me think it was stock photography but tineye can’t find it beyond February so it could easily be generated.

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        Oh, definitely. I was questioning whether or not the irony was actually deliberate, illustrating the end result of the fake money ouroboros

        All kinds of weird going on with how the right hand is “holding” that module (while pinching another one behind it?)

        Memory module is symmetrical.

        No motherboard I’ve ever seen would have DIMM slots parallel to PCI slots, let alone that far from the CPU socket

        Have a look at what would normally be the 24-Pin ATX connector - fewer pins, which is not unheard of in some proprietary cases, but the connector itself looks weird and garbled.

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        Aren’t the ram slots also straight up placed wrong in the motherboard? I have never seen ram on a diagonal from the CPU before, or running parallel to the pcie slots, even on weird prebuilts.

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        Ironic - it’s clearly GenAI

        The question is whether or not it’d deliberately ironic, the hallucination machine can’t even properly hallucinate PC Hardware despite heaps of training data.

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        HBomberguy rips through the background

        “I tricked you! This post is actually about professional wrestling!”

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    TBF, step 1 was to take a shit ton of equity and purchase the small house sized machinery to make the memory stacks that will never be used…