Luigi Mangione plans to assert a psychiatric defense at his state murder trial, claiming he was suffering from extreme emotional disturbance when he gunned down UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, a judge said Wednesday. It wouldn’t absolve him of the Dec. 4, 2024, killing, but could free him from prison sooner.
If a jury accepts that defense, the panel would convict Mangione of manslaughter and he would face up to 25 years in prison. Alternatively, the jury could reject the extreme emotional disturbance defense and convict him of murder, which carries a potential life sentence. That defense isn’t available in his federal case.
“allegedly gunned down”
FTFY
cough jury nullification
Lock his ass away for good already.
Do you go for different flavours of boots to lick or are you an OG leather fan?
You’re not big on due process I see.
Up to the jury, not you.
First day on Lemmy?
Fuck you, buddy.
Ok Mr. Gates
The irony of claiming health issues as the reason the United Healthcare CEO was shot is hilarious.
seems like a sane person to me…
Just like the PDFILE island… no justice will be served… They will drag lugi through the mud only to nail him to the cross just like your christ. The yankkkee doodle dandy giving strangers candy prides itself as it tries to emulate the holy roman empire. They will put your christ to death to kill your moral. There is no justice in the imperial core unless it serves a purpose to send a measage to the plebs. Come on kiddos time to grow up and let go of childish things.
PDFILE
You’re not going to get demonetized on lemmy, dipshit
Shoot, you can say darn. I don’t give a crud, if you say heck…
But for real, the internet used to be a place where I would casually see racial slurs. Somehow that is still preferrable to learning that a PDF-File has game ended himself with pewpews…
Feel like I’m in a god damn nursery half the time.
mmm. when I heard it on the news it did not sound like he was admiting to doing it but just that when they arrested him he was in that state.
claiming he was suffering from extreme emotional disturbance when he gunned down UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, a judge said Wednesday.
I’d rather see the argument that it was the only logical response to an illogical environment.
It’s not that “everyone’s going crazy” these days, it’s that corporations and oligarchs aren’t withholding their end of the social contract, and forcing the cognitive dissonance on everyone that we still need to follow it will continue to lead to events like this.
It’s bigger than Luigi and whatever that CEOs name was.
This is just how people will react when they no longer believe society has their backs. And modern American society 100% does not have anyone’s back except oligarchs and corporations.
But the effect of the shooter’s actions is quantifiable and resulted in claims getting approved and a shit ton of lives saved.
Like, that’s going to be the big sticking point of this trial, it’s a trolley problem jury trial. I still think he’s getting off, even if they can prove it was him.
the only sane response to an insane world is to reject it wholeheartedly, possibly by lashing out, it is the most damaged among us who embrace it unreservedly.
Tl;dr - Luigi’s not crazy, it’s the rest of the world that’s gone mad.
(Shout out to Wonko the Sane)
I just had this conversation with my therapist where I said I don’t think that I’m necessarily depressed, but am being acted upon by the men who move only in dimly lit halls and determine my future for me, and I feel distant from others, and don’t do enough fun things. And she was like, yeah, probably.
We need to guillotine the sociopath class.
Luigi already did one, so what are you waiting for?
Talking big about revolutions and beheading people when you clearly have no intention of actually doing either, is honestly kinda pathetic.
How do you know I am not working on a revolution?
Good on you if you are. Are you?
Are you?
Revolution against capitalism isn’t something I think is possible, they literally have all the money and power in the world and that is not a fight we can win.
Plus they aren’t spending any of their trillions to fix climate change (not that they even could at this point), so what’s the point in fighting for, or even dreaming of, a better future, when the rest of this century is going to involve the deaths of multiple billions of people to drought, famine, technological collapse, bad weather and run away heating.
So instead of spouting hollow platitudes about beheading billiomaires and needing revolutions, I’ve spent my energy elsewhere, mainly by studying climate science and enjoying what little health I have left.
I don’t think that’s gonna hold up in court.
For how many people does free food and board for 25 years look like a viable way to retire?
Actually yeah, my savings and retirement plans are getting wiped out by events beyond my control. Guess shooting a ceo, and getting put in prison, hailed as a folk hero, is a pretty damn good option compared to being on the streets when I can no longer work.
I wonder how many others will see the truth of that as time goes on.
The irony is prisons often have better health care than you can afford outside of prison(this assumes that are run the way they are supposed to be, but we all know how often that actually happens in the USA)
Luigi did nothing wrong. He saved lives.
So you’re okay with random acts of literal murder?
Welcome to the troops, that’s what we’re all about!
How many people do health insurers need to harm before idiots like you learn your place?
I have had to argue with my insurance company, UHC, for a hospitalization that was 100% warranted. They kept me for 5 days and the docs tried to persuade me to stay for another but I was going stir crazy at that point because I felt better. I was dangerously sick and dehydrated when I went in with uncontrollable nausea and diarrhea and my heart rate at rest was 140, I was in agonizing pain, and I couldn’t walk. I had infusions running that entire time. How are they gonna tell me my hospitalization was unnecessary because some nursing notes said I was laying in bed comfortably? Yeah, because I was on oxycodone and getting better, dipshits.
I know I can win this argument but it’s going to require a ton of phone tag and talking to people who don’t know shit and escalating and that’ll easily be half of my Monday. So much productivity going to bullshit jobs that only exist to justify themselves.
Literally wasting time and causing you more stress because they’re trying to renege on a deal you’ve already paid for.
Horseshit. I’m sorry you gotta go through the ringer for something that should be as easy as possible.
Thank you <3 I feel for the people who don’t have time to waste on insurance denials who just have to eat the cost. Luckily I have time right now and I’m willing but it still blows.
I think something around 1% of denials in the US are appealed and then over 40% are overturned, but don’t quote me on those numbers. I’m remembering this from a video of a congressional hearing. Only 1% of people have that time…dystopian
Random?
I wouldn’t say random. He had a clear motive. He’s not some serial killer.
Of insurance company executives? Yes. (also, not random)
It’s self defense
yeah!
This is a bad defence. I saw Luigi minutes before the incident in a far away location. He’s innocent.
Therefore, he is admitting that he was the shooter?
Irresistible impulse. This may be a poor choice by the defense. If I’m on the jury all I can see is reasonable doubt.
Just reminded me of something I heard on an Ask a Lawyer video recently:
“Some people who aren’t insane plead insanity, and some people who are very insane don’t.”
This is a case where I believe he was driven insane by the bullshit surrounding healthcare.
Jury nullification! If the pedophile class can murder us by the millions he can defend us!
