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The sad part is that Valve really did price all the parts for pretty much as low as they could go:
Bruh the lenovo desktop I got on ebay got more ram than that (32 gb ddr5)
When did you get it and for how much?
The hardware prices seem competitive. But the important note is hinting at the real form factor tax: It doesn’t have the same cost / performance ratio as a normally sized PC using the same hardware.
Well it’s little, competing in the little guy bracket.
Sadly thats probably a competitive price for a console now.
Either way it’s cheaper than a console once you factor in the absence of discounts and subscription to play online that consoles have.
This makes me wonder about the next time we have to buy new phones …
Just buy a cheap Chinese phone.
No, moderately expensive fairphone with no google services
I might as well save some money since I’m gonna be spied on either way.
Probably not interested for those specs at that price.
In Japan, the page also has a link that goes to some partner of theirs that’s just a maintenance page at 09:38 on a weekday which… does not inspire confidence.
To be fair that’s normal in Japan.
And if you’re talking about Komodo Station, they’re pretty good
I work in IT in Japan and we’d be in deep shit if that happened at any company I work for.
I don’t think I’ve ever used Komodo station for anything before which is why I clicked to see.
That’s unfortunate. Expected, but unfortunate.
I like gaming. That like is not strong enough to extend to that price point.
It’s a hipster PC. Even if there wasn’t the current hardware pricing bubble, you’d still pay the form factor tax.
Not suprised after seeing the deck’s price hike. Thanks AI…
In this economy?
At this latitude?
So thats pretty much as expected - 7 months ago it would have been ~$700 as predicted
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Baseline numbers compared to top end numbers don’t make sense. 700 vs 1050.
those numbers are likely aimed to be profitable not just now but for a while. if they raise the price with every manufacturing run people will lose trust.
This is overpriced for the hardware.
Building one is so easy guys, don’t fall for this sort of thing. The GPU is amazingly underpowered.
Build a computer - buy a cheap cpu, a 5700, and 16gb of ram. You’ll be fine with that.
This is overpriced for the hardware.
I challenge you to build out a parts list with comparable performance for cheaper. And it needs to be more than a 10% difference. You can’t just show a savings of $50 and claim victory, because there’s a lot you get in convenience and guarantees when you buy hardware from Valve.
Kind of impossible when a company like Valve has hardware purchasing power which means RAM and NVME are bought at a less absurd price.
It’s also worth mentioning that you can’t really upgrade a Steam Machine down the line when it starts to feel underwhelming in a couple years, given its 8GB VRAM/RDNA3 architecture. I wouldn’t say it’s overpriced but I wouldn’t say it offers much value either. It just has quirks (software & formfactor).
You forgot the form factor
Fair point. I’m biased to give Valve a pass, but if any other company released a similar product at a similar price point I’d be skewering them.
Am I the only one that has a computer hooked up to their tv?
I’ll throw steam os on my mini PC and just pretend it’s a steam machine. I knew they were going to break $1k but yeesh, breaking it AND only 512gb is tough
I’d recommend Bazzite over SteamOS. Even if I was buying a Steam Machine, I would still just use Bazzite.
Even if I was buying a Steam Machine, I would still just use Bazzite.
They both run Arch, both are capable of running KDE & Gnome DE, both are immutable but only one will get dedicated support from the manufacturer and developer.The use of HDMI CEC is not typical for desktop environments, I doubt you’ll get the same “sleep” functionality on Bazzite.
They both run Arch
No, Bazzite is based on Fedora. SteamOS is based on Arch. Maybe you had Bazzite confused with CachyOS?
Yup my bad, I have striked it out of my previous comment.
Why’s that
I daily drive Bazzite and I’m not fully in agreement. If you’re doing non-Steam games or emulation, or desktop stuff, on AMD hardware Bazzite is the winner IMO because it ‘ships’ with that stuff preconfigured in a way steam os doesn’t and Bazzite has something very similar to big picture mode for AMD. Hardware compatibility is probably still better out of the box with Bazzite too.
If you’re only playing Steam games on the TV Steam OS is arguably better.
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I kinda expected that… same thing with the steamdeck, only way to get one is to go through a scalper
i mean, do we need to set up a little lemmy dropshipping thing so we can make sure none of us get taken advantage of? i can nominate a few people i’d trust, but like, internet y’know.
Wow I’ll never be able to own one 😂.
Gonna get skewered for this take but… that’s slightly better than I thought it would be. I thought it would be 1500 USD at the minimum.
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OH NO brother they’re RAFFLING IT!? hahahaha that’s fucked
OH NO brother they’re RAFFLING IT!? hahahaha that’s fucked
I disagree. The Deck and Controller each had their queues announced at least a week ahead of time. The queue for the Steam Machine kinda just shadowdropped in comparison. Plus a raffle doesn’t penalize anyone for having work or living in a timezone where they’d normally be asleep.
Given the circumstances it’s pretty fair.
It’s a one-per-household, vetted for bots and scalpers raffle, yup. Well, more of a first-wave-shuffling and then waitlist, really.
Each global region has separate quantities and lists, and each version of the box has their raffled/shuffled lists.
What’s nice about that is, not only are they going to actively try to limit to one household, but as long as you get in before the 25th, even if you get shuffled to the very end, you’re still going to be before anybody that comes in almost 4 days later, and have a chance to be literally first. Chaotic, but I think that’s kinda fun.
Each global region that’s supported that is. I wish they’d have some way for regions outside of those list to still try. There was essentially 0 chance I was able to get a Steam Controller being outside of those lists.
OH NO brother they’re RAFFLING IT!? hahahaha that’s fucked
I’m actually glad to see it. A raffle is one of the only realistic ways to deter scalpers while still leaving the console eventually accessible to people who actually want to play on it. Fuck scalpers; anything that hurts them is a win in my book.
They will sell out instantly and this blocks the scalpers.
Oh yeah sorry, I don’t mean to say they’re wrong for doing it. I just mean that scalpers are now so prolific that this is the only way to ensure fair purchases, that’s the fucked part.
randomization is to determine the order of receipt
… that’s high demand, sheesh
i mean, i just entered a raffle. but it’s for free music tix at stern grove in san francisco. that’s the kind of raffle i’ll enter.
