• kreskin@lemmy.world
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    Catholics have always struggled with the idiot conservatives in their midst in leadership. They should finally excommunicate and defrock the lot of them and not just let them leave, but toss them bodily out the door while calling them fascists and rapists who are bad for the church and bad for humanity.

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    I would not call it a crisis when the catholic church finally gets rid of a bunch of right-wing lunatics. More like “long overdue”.

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    Splinter sect? Are we about to get some great schism in our historical shitshow soup?

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      I’m hoping for a good old-fashioned Pope/Anti-Pope fight. That’s where two men both claim the thrown of St. Peter at the same time, usually each with their own power base. And of course, the first thing they each do is excommunicate each other!

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        You can’t let the pope and the anti pope touch each other ghough, else religion annihilate itself

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        Two guys in overly complicated clothing fighting over who’s the daddy? What is this, Thursday night at the BDSM club?

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    Jesus the hardline Orthodox Jew from first century Galilee would not recognize any of this and would be appalled that gentiles had created an entirely new religion out of the worship of his idol

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      Roman-era Judaism bore little resemblance to the practices of modern Orthodox Jews. And Jesus saying that his teachings encompassed all the law and the prophets would outrage any hardliners of that era.

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        That’s why I qualified it with “from first century Galilee”. Obviously not the same as Rabbinic Judaism. Yes he was a radical reformer and one of many Messiah claimants obsessed with the book of Daniel, but it’s pretty clear he was a Jew with a Jewish message for Jews. The idea that he would have gone along with Paul’s reforms doesn’t really track. Christianity is the religion of Paul.

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    And they’re from Kansas, of all places.

    The USA really does have a Christian fundamentalist problem, doesn’t it?

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      Kansas is a nowhere flyover state with little influence. The whole state has a population roughly the size of a medium sized west coast city like sacramento or portland. We need to stop letting flyover state population minorities dictate politics.

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      Their headquarters is in Switzerland. Their founder was a French archbishop who spent a lot of his time in Africa. What makes you think they’re from Kansas? They just have a base there.

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      Totally not. Just like Afghanistan or Iran don’t have a Muslim fundamentalist problem.

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      TBF a lot of the Church’s “strength” comes from its ability to borrow local customs so that locals are willing to adopt it (after you kill people that strongly oppose it), so it makes sense that in Kansas they’re fundamentalists.

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    Always happy when the dissenters in the Roman Catholic Church are the traditionalists. It means the RCC is moving in the right direction.

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    This isn’t that hard of a crisis, just excommunicate the nazis.

    Boom, problem solved. Being the pope is easy, next try selling some of your gold and jewels to feed the hungry.

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    Traditional? No. They are not more traditional.

    I think this is relevant

    From Henri Nouwen:

    "Our lives as we live them seem like lives that anticipate questions that will never be asked. It seems as if we are getting ourselves ready for the question “How much did you earn during your lifetime?” Or “How many friends did you make?” Or “How much progress did you make in your career?” Or “How much influence did you have on people?” Or “How many conversions did you make?”

    Were any of these to be the question Christ will ask when he comes again in his glory, many of us could approach the judgement day with great confidence. But nobody is going to hear any of these questions. The question we are all going to face is the question we are least prepared for. It is: “What have you done for the least of mine?” As long as there are strangers; hungry, naked, and sick people; prisoners, refugees, and slaves; people who are handicapped physically, mentally, or emotionally; people without work, a home, or a piece of land, there will be that haunting question from the throne of judgement: “What have you done for the least of mine?”

    I don’t think even the Christian God really cares about the straight and narrow dogma, and would not appreciate the in group/out group focus of the hardliners. The bottom line is the point of their religion, caring for those who are not cared for by others.

    I often figure if Jesus came back, he would always appear to you as the person you least want to help.

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      If Jesus were to come back today, he would be born via a miraculous pregnancy to a Central American transgender woman living in an ICE detention facility.

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    You know you’re fucked in the head when THE CATHOLIC CHURCH is too progressive and not traditional enough for you! 🤦🏻

    Pictured: woke modernity run amok

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      A lot of Christina Talibans left the church over time. Most of them went into the USA. Go figure why the US is so f-ed up.