This is one of those ask for 100 so you can negotiate down to 50 kind of things isn’t it? Or just a pretend attempt to look good when it’s obviously rejected.
Yes to both probably
No, it phases in over a few years.
You’re saying that as if it passed and will be going into effect. This will absolutely not pass if the 15 an hour that’s been attempted constantly over the last decade hasn’t.
It’s a pretend attempt lol
Thank you! I was going crazy with every affordability discussion I heard only talking about cutting taxes and ways to lower costs here and there. Raising incomes fixes everything.
I’m not trying to be a negative Nancy here, but I gotta say, the fact that shit like this has NEVER in my lifetime been introduced when the Democratic Party actually has control of anything is pretty fucking telling.
This is garbage. It appeals to a far left constituency while alienating the moderate left people who are just trying to make their small businesses work. There has got to be a compromise line between these two groups. This is not how you win elections.
If your business model doesnt allow payment of a living wage then your business deserves to fail
We should start with Walmart not small business.
The moderate left business owners? WTF?
Raising the minimum wage is far left?
What even is this?
This is already a compromise. The far left answer to small business owners is to expropriate your capital and force you to get a job like everyone else.
Besides that, workers outnumber business owners 170.7 million to 36.2 million. You’re a really tiny voting bloc and most of you vote Republican in every election anyway, so who cares what you think?
Enjoy your Walmarts on every corner.
One of the biggest problems with Walmart is how little they pay their workers.
Forcing them to pay $25/hr seems like a pretty good deal.
I might be wrong but I don’t think this actually pleases “far left” — far left prefers maximums / taxing billionaires rather than just raising the minimum without any regulations to keep costs from rising indefinitely
Pretty sure the far left doesn’t believe in currency or private ownership of goods at all. The far left are communists and anarchists who eschew capitalism entirely. The policies you’ve described are centre-left. The Overton Window in the US has shifted so far to the right that they don’t actually know what far left even means anymore.
Noted - good point! I guess I meant ‘further left’ than whatever “far left “ boogeyman the original commenter had in their head.
That’s a lot of words for “I’m selfish and don’t understand how people on low incomes tend to spend more money proportionately, thereby stimulating small businesses”
Ehhhhhhhhhhh in my experience low income does not support small business.
Maybe they would change habits if they made more but it’s unlikely. Habits change more by necessity.
In reality we’d all see healthcare become $5k a month and car insurance at $500.
A livable wage is now considered a far left issue? Jesus christ things have gotten bad.
Left is literally labor. Like, yea, raising minimum wage over triple is definitely a far left issue.
I’m sorry you’ve just now noticed. May want to take a look at Nov 2024-present.
According to the far right, it’s a far left issue. According to everyone else, it’s a center to center-right issue. There is no far-left in the US.
A livable wage increasing 3x is going to raise eyebrows…
I’m not in US, but 3x people’s salary isn’t something feasible, you don’t just increase the lowest, as they now leaped past everyone else. EVERYONE will need increases.
So now everything goes up in cost, you just killed the export economy and those who are out of a job? Get turbo fucked because benefits lag behind at best of times, but now they got higher prices to deal with with the money they already don’t have.
Oh and people go and buy out the housing market before it rockets to the moon.
This is a lemmy comment, figures are vague by design. It is a centrist (read left if you’re American) safe space, hence I’m here, but we don’t live in lala land…
I’m far left with a small business.
Yea this $25 an hour would ensure I’d remain a slave and the few jobs I can afford to offer (which are actually fun and in the arts) would all just be me until i keeled over and died paintbrush in hand.
I don’t get fucking paid $25 an hour right now and I pay myself.
Or i could close up shop and work at Walmart like everyone else. Then no one will have anyone or anything to ever see again in America that’s not a major public corp.
The answer is to redistribute that wealth those corps stole from us.
If you can’t run a business that pays you $25 an hour, it’s not a viable business. Work a job that pays and do the art you enjoy for the love of it.
If your small business fails because you can’t pay you employees enough to live off of, that’s a problem with your business model. The problem with small businesses is that the people starting them have no idea what they’re doing.
Enjoy your Walmarts on every corner.
I live in a country with reasonable minimum wage and small businesses are doing fine. My city (5 million people) only has 5 Walmart’s while while American cities with half the population (I’ll use Houston for example) have 24. Low wages are integral to Walmart’s business model, not in opposition to it.
This is garbage.
This is still less than some areas’ true living wage in this country. Look up essentially any city here, and you’ll find its living wage is often much higher than both the current minimum wage, the most frequently proposed $15 increase, and this new $25 increase.
Minimum wages should be living wages, not the bare minimum to not starve unless you even temporarily lose your job and are now deemed ineligible to live.
It appeals to a far left constituency
74% of Democrats (center-right), and 55% of voters overall (left, center, and right combined) support a minimum wage increase to $25/hour. This is not a fringe idea.
while alienating the moderate left people who are just trying to make their small businesses work.
When minimum wages rise, small businesses find it easier and cheaper to hire new employees, face less turnover, and are able to charge a high enough price to cover the newly increased cost without inflating prices faster than the minimum wage.
Raising the minimum wage for everyone benefits individuals, small businesses, and the economy at large. It even reduces the high school dropout rate!
This is not how you win elections.
Pushing a broadly popular issue relating to affordability at a time when economic uncertainty is around the highest it’s ever been is an incredibly good strategy to win elections.
You brought receipts. Thank you.
Dozen of workplace burn by the workers -> even shithead thinks to raise wages
Direct action pay cash
Was this comment written by Kevin from The Office when he wouldn’t use full sentences?
you know that the whole world do not speak English right ? So you understand that we are making effort to adapt to the hegemony of yours ?
The least you can do is being respectful. Are my sentences long enough ?
How can anyone survive on ~$7.80/hr? That is modern day indentured slavery.
Introduce a bill for Socialized Healthcare too!!!
This may be for show but that’s more show than they were willing to show 2019-2021. Republicans were throwing out certain to fail bills constantly for at least the last 25 years. It at least throws people a marketing bone and also any that make it out of committee to a floor vote, it puts on record/something to market for/against an elected public servant. Republicans effectively steer public opinion against their own to their advantage for getting stuff passed and who they want into office. Democrats do not.
It’s one way to craft a publicly recognizable party ideology that the democratic party has failed to build up these last few decades. The we’re not republicans, we looks and sound more professional doesn’t work. Something like this is a major improvement. If it makes it to the floor for a vote, which democrats and republicans will vote against or abstain. We should want that for potential future primary challengers and be encouraging these
its performative, the gop isnt on board with this and likely they will block it. dnc has alot of bad publicity recently, israel/gaza, inaction trump, plus ending shut downs early,etc.
THE gop has largely convinced thier own base that higher wages =higher prices.
they get more good publicity by raising the MEDICAID/care income cap, where you have a max income on which you can receive " recieve free healthcare" or reapplying the covid-area susidies to the ACA.
This is just for show and will end up going nowhere. If you think this has even a remote chance at changing the minimum wage then I have a bridge to sell you.
We live in a time where democrats do nothing but act appalled, corporations control politics, corporations keep getting bigger, consumer prices increase year after year, healthcare premiums constantly cost more and employee benefits keep getting more expensive every year. What gives you the idea corporations are going to let politicians triple minimum wage? If that happens it will have a ripple effect where higher paying job positions will want a raise because why should someone making an entry level wage be paid the same as a job position with a lot more responsibility?
most of them are gop that are not electable as a republican, so they become DINOS. schumer +13 other senators are likely the same, likewise with the house seats.
Not just that but if it passed it would eat into profits. We can’t have that, think of the shareholders
Profits are already eaten up by executive bonuses and salaries.
It’s regular salaries that eat into those, and that’s what they’re trying to protect.
It should be at least $20/hr
in HCOL states is around that or slightly more or ready. it wont get passed because the gop isnt going to allow it since none of them support it.
The bill is for $25. No way it’ll actually happen tho even though we desperately need it
I can see it happening… After Trump’s next Fed pick causes super inflation to bring down the debt.
yeah, this bill has the same chance of passing as it snowing in hell.
I’m far more interested in a wage cap. Top level earner can’t earn more than 10x the lowest level earner in the company. And a it doesn’t matter the amount the wage is, if it isn’t also tied to inflation as we’ll be back fighting this fight again in short order if it isn’t. That of course is take all of this at face value, and pretending it’s not just theater.
Though overall I would still prefer people rejecting the current business structures and making employee-owned businesses the new way. Go Pirate with the whole thing, everybody works for shares. Unions/Min. Wage are just compromises from realizing the true potential and pay of the working class.
the “the 1%” meme is really anti-class consciousness, rich workers are workers, this individual literally forgot investors exist
The real money is made on assets, not income
I’m not an expert, but in that case, the company just splits into different sub-companies, no? The manufacturing arm would have a CEO paid in stocks and lower level workers still make nothing.
I wouldn’t even hold my breath for 1000x
They just get non-salary benefits
There is a value tied to the non-salary benefits. Include that in the cap.
Something something unrealized gains. I agree with you, I’m just pessimistic we’ll ever see anything remotely close to this.
I’m with you on that. It will not happen
That’s where the cap needs to be. There will always be someone capable and willing to take the job without the enormous pay packet. Executive pay is the biggest scam ever created.
No but you see if we don’t offer 2 million a year AT LEAST we won’t attract too talent!
It’s such a wild lie that for some reason we are all supposed to take seriously.
We all work at companies, the executives aren’t doing anything earth shattering. Most executives seem to be running the playbook of “give the customer less and charge them more to increase profits”. Wow, what innovation!
I would love for someone to be able to point out some concrete brilliant ideas that an executive actually had that went from “vague bullshit” to execution without getting worked and reworked and reworked by a bunch of normal employees until it was actually viable.
Steve Jobs made the iPhone, oh by himself, did he design the chips and write the software? Sure the vision is great, but for every iPhone there are a thousand CEOs that basically keep the lights on an already functioning company and raise the price. Oversee a rebrand. Go on the news and talk up their company.
And they’d have you believe that that’s worth 300-400x what a regular employee.
That every day they are coming in and providing more benefit than a worker does in an entire year. It’s the most obvious bullshit we’ve ever been asked to swallow
there will never be a wage cap under this current neoliberal hellscape. the entire goal of both parties is to make money for their corporate interests
These same commenters will make fun of reddit and twitter for always being cynical and rage fueled.
Can’t wait for this to not go anywhere and have several dems finger-wag for the next several years saying there’s nothing they can do
or get in power and immediately ignore it ala biden
From 1 to 3 - great!
Most states have gone well beyond the federal wage so this would mainly just bring it to approximately the norm in most states.
$7.25 minimum wage still exist here in this state while across the river its more than $15
In my state its $15 but I haven’t seen a job in my town posted in the last 8+ years for under $21 because vhcol.
The general consensus is minimum wage is whatever the grocery store is hiring at (they have had a poster at the front door for 20 years now posting what theyre hiring at. Right now its $32/$35 for overnight restocking) - every buisness owner knows theyre not going going to get any applications if they can’t beat it.
Even tipped positions all pay $16+ so people can actually make rent.
Our local paper just did a story on this this morning. Only 44% of full time workers here make a living wage due to the low wages.
https://www.inquirer.com/business/living-wage-philadelphia-dayforce-work-20260429.html
