• atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works
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    9 days ago

    I mean… Adults shouldn’t really be drinking milk regardless… It’s full of all kinds of hormones that don’t do anything but give adults cancer since adults aren’t growing anymore.

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      9 days ago

      Forget adults, humans in general shouldn’t be drinking cow’s milk. That’s the entire reason it needs to be pasteurized.

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        If you drank the unpasteurized mixed breast milk of a hundred human women I almost guarantee you will get sick. Any body fluid, from both humans and mammals, is a huge health risk in its raw form. Infants are OK because they only drink from one and whatever disease the mom has, the baby is almost guaranteed to have already got anyway from the constant close contact.

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          An adult would probably be okay if they only drank from a single human too, at least, depending on the human.

          There’s just no sustainable or practical way for every single adult to have their own milker, regardless of species.

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          9 days ago

          I mean like an ACTUAL source.

          Because I like milk, but this is the first I’ve ever heard about milk outright causing cancer.

          If that’s actually the case, I should probably reconsider consuming milk. But… Uhh… I’m not convinced at this point. Do you have a better source?

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            It’s nonsense pseudo-naturalist bullshit. If people want to talk about anything being “unnatural” then look at the broad and general world around you, as well as the absurdist history of humans, and learn to shut the fuck up. We can eat and sustain ourselves off of god damned near anything, that’s the biggest part of our whole niche of overwhelmingly successful evolution. Any something out there will give some random someone out there cancer, it’s nothing to do with how we’re “supposed” to do things (because there is no such thing.), it’s just how variables are going to work when there are 9 billion too many of us bumbling around out there. That’s just a fuck load of unavoidable and unpredictable genetic variation. Does this mean eating peanuts or legumes in general is “unnatural” since they just outright fucking murder humans at a rate that makes any dairy allergy or intolerance look like a pretty fucking stupid thing to show any level concern for.

            We managed to not only survive but very much thrive specifically because we are able to sustain on anything we can get our hands on, very much including the milk of anything that’s got the tits for it.

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    9 days ago

    This is the dumbest headline ever.

    Same with all the measles outbreaks and all the AntiVa/AntiMa Karens during Covid. I swear, some people seem hellbent on self-harm. It’d be one thing if it was only themselves they were harming.

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      9 days ago

      We built a world so safe and so protected that the “edgy rebellioius” thing to do is abandon all of that and sound trendy it seems.

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        I’d bet many of these assholes were the ones that sat in school and grumbled about how they have “street smarts” and school wasn’t practical and was about “book smarts” and it was a huge waste of their time because of what daddy and mommy already told them about the world.

        Never getting equipped to understand how the world really works, how to distinguish sense from nonsense, how science works, and how to spot logical fallacies.

        Some of them may have even stumbled their way through higher education, but missed out on really learning anything other than being able to (barely) do a job.

        Now “doing their own research” via streamers, social media posts, random sites from influencers, etc…

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          And NOW we have graduating classes who don’t even understand the absolute basics of their field because they slid through by leaning on AI! Hooray!trails off grumbling about how fucked we are

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          This is right wing Idaho… many of these folks haven’t sat in a school for a day in their life. They were “home schooled” or went to a cultist religious school. The government distrust runs so deep that a bunch of them likely were born in their own home, never saw a doctor, never had a vaccination, and don’t legally exist on paper.

          I’m not saying they don’t have any responsibility for their actions… but if you consider the environment they have been immersed in… they don’t really stand a chance.

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          Yeah those are the people you see on Facebook who list “school of hard knocks” as their education background. Its typically some middle aged, divorced white guy wearing black Oakleys in his profile pic.

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    9 days ago

    The Department of Health and Welfare didn’t disclose the names of dairies in North Idaho and southern Idaho that are linked to the outbreaks.

    I guess doing that would be “DEI” or “woke” or something.

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    About 4 or 5 years ago, my neighbor’s adult children (and by extension my neighbor) got really big into the raw milk craze. For awhile, he’d mention all the benefits compared to store bought milk that’s homogenized & pasteurized and supposedly it’s those processes that make it unhealthy.

    I don’t remember exactly when they stopped talking about raw milk, but at some point that topic stopped coming up anymore. Then one day, my neighbor told me he was going over to his daughter’s to drop off a gallon of (store bought) milk, and I replied with something like “I thought she only drank raw milk”.

    That’s when he told me that the family stopped drinking raw milk a while ago after everybody got sick from a bad batch.

    Anyway, I have had raw milk as a child one time when a local farmer dropped some off for us to try. I don’t recall it very well since I was pretty young but I vaguely remember not liking it because it tasted too much like the way cows smell and it was thicker (more viscous) than I was expecting so there was a bit of “gross factor”. I’m sure it wouldn’t be gross if I had grown up drinking it, though.

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      “bad batch” likely the milk was sitting at ambient temperature for more several hours or more before being served, which allows bacteria to grow, thats in addition to the bacteria already in the milk.

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      Almost anything can be consumed “raw” if the entire handling chain is working 100%. The reality is - even without capitalism - germs can spread pretty easily, people can make mistakes, and contamination is inevitable. Once you add capitalist incentives to cut corners, go faster, and produce more… it’s a disaster waiting to happen. The more popular raw milk gets, the more dangerous it will be.

      The absolute safest way to drink raw milk is to pick it up directly from a farmer that you know, and that has a very low volume farm, and is very educated on the best handling and bottling processes. Again… the types of farmers that will be selling such a risky product aren’t the ones you want to be buying from.

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        Raw milk is lower risk if it is one or two cows, and only one distributor - like “I know a cow”. That said, yer still gonna get sick from it eventually. cow poop and milk sources are simply too close together.

        • a guy who knows a cow or two.
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        9 days ago

        The real safest is right from a clean test of a healthy cow. But personally I don’t like warm milk.

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    If only there was long held scientific understanding of the health risks of raw milk, and the benefits of pasteurization. What a wonderful world that would be.

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      I mean it only comes out of the warm teet of a barnyard animal, what’s the worst that could happen?

      Why bother sterilizing the milk before you drink it? In fact, I’ve heard raw milk doesn’t even need to be refrigerated because of all the beneficial bacteria it’s got (hard /S, btw)

      You know what’s strange, though? My 7th grade science teacher used to preach to the class about how he and his wife were getting into drinking raw milk and how it’s supposedly so much better for you. So… if that’s any indication what kind of county I grew up in…

      That was back in the late aughts when dubya was still in office, too. So it’s not like it was just a case of the RFK jr. brainworm…

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    8 days ago

    Idaho is a wild fucking state. The number of nutballs that have moved there and occupied it is mind blowing.