Keir Starmer has suggested the US is trying to interfere in British democracy after JD Vance, the US vice-president, blamed the murder of the British teenager Henry Nowak on mass migration.
The prime minister’s office responded after the senior Republican politician claimed in a post on X that Nowak would be alive “if the last few generations of European elites had stood their ground against the politics of self-hatred and the mass invasion of migrants, many of whom despise the West and the people who love it”.
Downing Street did not name Vance directly but said its response to his comments was that “in recent days we have seen people trying to interfere in our democracy and seeking to stir up division on our streets”.
Vance’s opinion is that of Peter Thiel and he is told what to say. Not sure why he keeps getting a soapbox to stand on, I guess it’s the media billionaires offering up a megaphone for a minion that walks and talks like them. Traditionally, his type of blather is not a function of the vice-presidency.
vance is the absolute last person anyone should be paying attention to on any subject
If I had a dollar for every time the US empire interfered in foreign elections, or democratic processes in general, I’d be richer than Ewwon Pusk.
Would’ve been nice for him to take issue with this from the start. I wonder why he’s jumping on this now…
Pretending to have a spine in the run-up to the leadership challenge?
No, that would be a cynical take, couldn’t be true.
Americans are so lucky not to have any murders or incompetent police officers. They should tell Brits how they did it.
Ah yes the Great Democracy that has banned peaceful protest if it “causes a disturbance”. The one that bans entry to any person with a political opinion the government does not like. The one that [checks news] revoked the licence of a doctor for two years in response to her participation in a peaceful protest…
SUGESTS?!
I don’t know this guy, any more than any other world leader, but yes dude, we are 100% maliciously infecting your politics.
let me help you
- bookface
- twatter
- spessx
- shitstack
- fox news
- paramount
- disney
- every american ai company
- ufc ballroom whyte trash house
evryone of these companies at minimum) are weaponized by trump-epstein class
dont bother classifying me as a nutjob conspiracy idiot, i already know.
I’m so fucking sick of Nazis. Fuck jd vance
Its pretty sad. He had the upbringing that couldve made him a working class hero. Its like he was radicalised by Facebook or something.
He had the upbringing that couldve made him a working class hero.
It’s almost as if policies matter more than class origin.
And you’ll have to believe me, because I also come from a working-class family (with plenty of additional intersectionality, for even more credibility).
He was radicalised by money. Lots and lots of money. He had a price and it was met.
The US interfering with another government? Never. Sidebar I thought it was essentially a given that everyone has their fingers in someone else’s pie. Like Museveni (Uganda) influences Ruto (Kenya) and Kagame (Rwanda) every election and vice versa. Saudis influence Tanzania via Zanzibar and China is heavily influencing all of east Africa’s politics right now. The US is influencing everyone and you have China and Russia messing with the US and the US messing with them. If you look around nearly everyone is at least messing with their neighbors government and the bigger players have global influences going on. It’s one big competition for power and control between mainly sociopaths all the while the masses across the world mostly want the same thing, a good quality of life for themselves and their loved ones.
It’s usually more subtle
One thing missing in the trump administrations is any level of discretion or tact, and most definitely guile which is simultaneously refreshing and infuriating. While most will tell you they’re friends and fuck you when you’re not looking the trump administration will straight fuck you to your face in a public room, it’s horrific and honest.
True.
That’s really the only material difference between Donald and the presidents who came before him: a lack of shame and subtlety. The way he operates is not fundamentally different in any meaningful way apart from presentation and the sheer will to get his own way.
Yes the only difference. Literally no difference in him and anyone else. Goddamn what kind of head injury does it take to say that?
A head injury sustained from reading history. American presidency didn’i start with Reagan.
I have full confidence that trump has broken more laws and norms than any given 5 presidents. Already. And it shocks me how people seem to willfully ignore this in favor of US bad.
One of the ways of keeping MAGA in power is by claiming all the alternatives are fake or useless. That contributes to a sense of learned helplessness.
Besides asking african country to be neutrsl about Taiwsn. What tother influence china has. France is still the biggest influencial country is african political affair and followed by russia
I’m speaking of east Africa specifically, which is concerning Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, and the eastern region of Congo. You are very specifically speaking of north western Africa.
China has its belt and road initiative, controls about 60% of the mines in Congo, is trying to take Mombasa or dar es salaam port, is building a port in kiliwa Tanzania, has a substantial amount of political and financial influence in eastern Africa. In short they have multiple companies leveraged in extracting natural resources in exchange for some small roads or bridges they have built. Also don’t mind the Chinese influencers capitalizing on racism of Africans. It gets so so so much more violent and dark than this. Human organs, infants being raped, any degree of human torment and degradation you can imagine but we would need to go deeper into the web to even see the shadows of those demons.
Most people in the rural areas around here don’t have access to the internet therefore no one cares what is happening or what will happen to them.
Yeah, it’s interesting to see so many posts asserting without evidence that Chinese imperialism is any more benign than that of Western countries.
The US has influence, don’t doubt that but at the same time it’s not really direct. The US isn’t trading the construction of roads or ports for access to natural resources. Link1
For reference, multiple western electronics manufacturers have turned away from using cobalt due to the horrific conditions in mining even though the Chinese mining companies continually assure partners they aren’t in breach of human rights.
China prefers control through soft power, the US is much more direct guns in your face type power. It’s very indicative of their cultures.
Starmer is not literally complaining. This is just his part to influence the masses.
JD doesn’t let a good chance of promoting the great replacement theory go to waste.
I mean it is factually real. Millions of migrants with completely different cultural values are coming to europe, usually don’t bother with integration, and since they have higher birthrates than the native population it results in the percentage of the native population shrinking. It’s just maths.
And if that’s not enough, look at schools. See how many kids are from migrants and compare this to 20-30 years ago. It is an undeniable trend. In big cities it is not uncommon for the native kids to be the minority in the classroom. I really can’t understand how this is not a huge reason for concern, as this just fosters the forming of massive parallel societies. Especially the left should be concerned, since most of those migrants come from Islamic countries where women are not seen as equal, where gays are being stoned and antisemitism is on a level nearly comparable to that of the Nazis.
Thanks gods Starmer is on the case /s
He took Netanyahu’s dick out of his mouth long enough to speak on the subject. That’s a lot for this spoiled head of cabbage
Perhaps a less homophobic metaphor might be better at getting your point across.
No. Toughen up buttercup.
Released the sausage
As much as I agree that he’s a useless waste of oxygen this isn’t actually his fault is it? The policing policy that the conservatives are complaining about was implemented by, drum roll please, the conservatives.
They are once again whining about their own decisions. There’s a reason that Badenoch didn’t bring this up in PMQ’s.
Yes, but I think radical reforms have been needed since he took office haven’t happened. They’ve gone backwards in some cases.
He has also broken ten of his election promises, IIRC. So I’m basically saying that when a laggard like himself complains, it has less credibility.
Oh I fully agree. Though I think the larger problem is just the fact that Labour are in comprehensively terrible at comms. For example they have raised the minimum wage, something which is needed doing for a decade or more, well they finally did it but for some reason they seem very coy about actually telling anyone. So unless you were actually working minimum wage and suddenly had your pay rise you wouldn’t know. Same thing for improving workers’ rights, they don’t appear to have actually told anybody about any of this.
So while labour definitely do need to replace him presumably with Andy Burnham, nothing’s going to get better unless they actually talk to people.
IS trying to interfere in elections
Yes? And? They’ve been doing that for at least since WWII, what’s the news here?
Well all you had to do was not create it in the first place, ya snaggle-toothed Limey.
Mass migration isn’t the problem, the problem is lack of oversight into what kind of people are coming into civilised countries, anyone that can so simply stab someone, lie to let them die shouldn’t have ever been allowed to come into the UK or any other country that has proper human rights against murder and rape, but these people aren’t educated and are incapable of integrating, so they shouldn’t be allowed entry.
Proper oversight is needed so people that are actually interested in a better life can be given that chance and those that seek chaos should stay home.
civilised countries
Take off your pith helmet, Rudyard, it’s not the 19th century any more. I’m surprised you didn’t refer to them as benighted savages. Probably your vocabulary doesn’t include the phrase.
these people
Another expression that indicates you have nothing worthwhile to say.
aren’t educated and are incapable of integrating
If you’re referring to Sikhs, you’re wrong on both counts. Sikhs have high literacy, high educational and economic attainment, and Sikh communities outside Punjab are well-known for engaging constructively in civil society. Don’t let anecdata based on one fucked-up young man and his fucked-up family mislead you about the bigger picture.
A) nice to see that you are concerned enough about Nowak’s death to respect his family’s wishes that it not be used to stoke division
B) Digwa is British
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I made you a trophy for the most dogwhistles in a single comment today.
You are a racist piece of shit.
I’m currently working and living over 8 years in another country in a place that is about 1300 kilometres away from home so i’m kinda familiar with the whole process of moving to another country and making a life there but sure racism is what you got from my comment. And you are an ignorant twat.
I can’t be racist because I have a black friend
Everyone here saw your comment for what it was. Go back to reddit
So you agree that we should be processing the asylum requests and then coming to a decision as soon as possible rather than simply leaving everybody in a state of limbo in some random hotel?
As always, your racist take shows that you don’t actually know anything about the subject matter.
I’m currently working and living over 8 years in another country in a place that is about 1300 kilometres away from home so i’m kinda familiar with the whole process of moving to another country and making a life there but sure racism is what you got from my comment.
You literally said that the problem is a lack of oversight on the “kind of people” what kinds of people are you talking about? Are you talking about the habitual criminals that are easily detectable because of some physical trait? Maybe they have a particular style of facial hair, or a convenient “I am a gang member” tattoo, or perhaps it’s just the colour of their skin who knows.
You’re a racist, you might not think of yourself as a racist, but the way you choose to express yourself outs you as one.More importantly though is the fact that you don’t appear to have picked up on the key point, which is that these asylum claims are not being processed. You are angry about something that is in fact not happening, these people aren’t been processed and let into the country despite being criminals, these people are not being processed yet are in the country anyway. If you want to solve the problem you actually have to solve the problem but the Conservatives decided to defund immigration precisely so they would be able to continue to have a group that they could hit with a big stick just to have something to keep the Gammons angry.
Hon, your dear Prince Andrew is in Epstein file.
Yeah but he just stabbed people with his cock and lied about it.
Also “hon” i’m not British and Epstein’s files still haven’t been fully released and there’s a good chance there is a cunt from your country in those files.
What has Prince Andrew to do with mass immigration? Never read such nonsense, but what else can I expect from leftist 🤷♂️AFAIK they never work, always the others have to pay, never take responsibility for their actions, it is always the others’ fault … they are lost cases.
Now you can downvote me into oblivion, because this is the only thing you can do 😂😂😂
What has Prince Andrew to do with mass immigration?
It was a suggestion that ethnic English people, even in the highest reaches of the establishment, are also capable of the most degraded forms of criminality. So why the focus on immigrants?
Do try to keep up.
You should probably sue your mother for poor quality workmanship when producing you, because I can’t imagine being so dull witted that you were unable to work that one out.
Given the fact that Andrew is demonstrably British, I would suggest that the nationality of someone doesn’t have much to do with their ability to be a criminal.
Also unless you are proposing to present us with a minority report style prediction system, I’m not exactly sure how anyone would have known that this particular individual was necessarily more a threat, than any other person from that nationality.
