• MochiGoesMeow@lemmy.zip
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    I thought I read theyre cutting work hours from 48 to 40. Not good enough imo. Thats what were at and still burned out.

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      Maximum working hours* which is not the same.

      Americans sign up for jobs at 40 and if they’re salaried they almost all work at least 45, and are then expected to be contacted out of work.

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        Word. I had a job that promised no more than 40 and my manager offered unofficial comp time for any overage. Then the economy slowed and they wanted to downsize, so fired me for working less than 40 hours one week a few months before.

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      Be honest, that’s not where millions of Americans are. 3 jobs, no overtime, ludicrous living costs is where many Americans are.

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      It’s worse than that. They’re reducing 2 hours per year until they reach 40, but they’re keeping six work days per week.

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    I had to execute a contract with a supplier in Mexico recently and they have a law (REPSE) that means you cannot engage a sub contractor when instead there’s a reasonable argument that you could employ them instead.

    It’s to protect an empire being manipulated and not receive benefits. They really do look out for their employee rights which is great to see

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    Fucking bait. Their solution to AI will be everyone works part-time for no more pay. Work hours will get rationed, redistributed in a way wealthy never is.

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      if there’s less supply of human labor, the price for it goes up. --> higher pay per hour

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        There is less demand for human labour, so its value goes down. Our only means of gaining resources to survive is to interact with the market economy that has captured everything, and do so through the exchange of money we earn selling our labour. If we can’t do that or it pays too little, we can’t interact with the economy and can’t get the resources necessary to stay alive.

        Rich and powerful never voluntarily do anything that would give us more power and them less. If it seems like either is happening, it’s a scam.

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          Our only means of gaining resources to survive is to interact with the market economy that has captured everything, and do so through the exchange of money we earn selling our labour.

          that’s neoliberal thought; not everything should be traded on the market.

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            I agree, but it is. Everyday they work toward turning another part of human existence, another experience or need or want, into a service or product to be sold and bought. Even the granular experiences of our relationships with each other are being commodified and enough people are buying them to grow those markets which outcompetes historic sources of those experiences, which are being degraded in quality, at the same time.

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              a free-market approach is only tolerated by the people as long as it benefits the masses. as soon as the people see that they’re losing, they’re violently gonna take what they need; i have faith in that. so i don’t think that neoliberalism is long for this world.

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                Subjugated people rarely ever rise up, regardless of the amount of suffering. That is a Hollywood fantasy, not backed up by any historic record. Even the few moments of unrest and revolution that have hapoene historically are either fommented by an ambitious party or are a product of a quick destabilizing change, such as resource scarcity or technology, not because it’s wise.

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    2030 is in ~3.5 years, things will be very, very different by that time with advanced AI.

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    This doesn’t mean anything because a lot of work in Mexico is informal and done in cash, and so these changes won’t have an effect on the people who need them the most.

    Besides, the country is going through an existential crises right now with the cartels ripping the country apart. A lot of people are already criticizing her for not focusing on the most pressing problems, and they’re right. This is nice in theory, but things like crime and violence have gotten so out of hand that parts of the country are unlivable for the average folk. She’s being increasingly regarded by Mexicans as another cartel stooge in office.

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      You can’t have this all or nothing approach. You’ll never get anything done. This should be celebrated as a step in the right direction and further actions be encouraged.

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        This the problem with the more radical leftists on here. They want these massive sweeping changes to happen or nothing at all. And that’s just not going to happen. Change is incremental. So they never get what they want because they never show up to vote.

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        It’s not all or nothing. This law is fine in of itself, but in the context that it’s in, it comes off as tone deaf from the president. This would be like Putin legalizing recreational marijuana while their invasion of Ukraine is still ravaging the Russian economy. In a vacuum such a law is fine, but in the real world there’s a giant elephant in the room that waiting to be addressed.

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      The only way to address systemic problems like crime and violence in any meaningful way is addressing the underline problem that pushed people to commit crimes. That underline problem is quality of life which is directly related to income.

      Taking people out of the informal job market is another problem to tackle that can be helped with having better work laws. Having good working laws stimulate people to get jobs in the formal market and avoid offers for informal work even if with better pay. That is not a problem that would be solved in the short term but this laws will help with that. The same approach was used in other countries and together with more government enforcement and fiscalizaton of the companies you see great improvement over the years and decades migrating people to the formal job market and reduction in crimes and violence.

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        You would be right if we were talking about normal crime and violence, but we’re not. The cartels aren’t made up of poor people who are committing crimes out of desperation. The people who are in the cartels do the most horrific things just to join, and once they join, they’re in for life. They have very organized hierarchies that keep a strict order, that’s why they’re massive crime syndicates.

        They abduct people from their houses, they assassinate politicians, they hold public executions, burn down businesses who don’t pay extortion fees, they torture people they kidnap, they rig elections, they put their corrupted judges and politicians in power, and the list goes on and on. They’re even starting to control the country’s biggest industries. For example, there’s a good chance that the avocadoes you buy from the store came from a cartel controlled farm. Things were bad before, but they’re especially bad now with the Sinaloa cartel being fractured. There’s a lot of cartels competing for the top spot and things are ugly, really ugly. Some of the cartels are especially brutal just for the sake of it like Jalisco New Generation.

        Mexico is a very unequal country. The nice areas are very nice. They’re safe, peaceful, have tourists, and are relatively wealthy. But the bad areas? They’re not even controlled by the government, they’re ruled by the cartels. They have so much violence that Mexico as a whole is considered a major war zone by the ACLED. You would think that president would prioritize something this pressing, but she gets offended at the very thought of her doing something about the cartels. Her predecessor, AMLO, did the same thing and he is widely regarded as a cartel stooge. She’s now being increasingly viewed in the same light.

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      Someone always thinks something else is more important. Doing that and making (wishfully) perfect the enemy of good are solid recipes for no progress.

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        In the abstract sure, but in reality context is everything. Would you celebrate countries like Israel or Russia passing similar labor reforms? Probably not, and rightfully so, because those countries clearly have much bigger, more pressing problems going on… like active wars and genocides. Mexico is not that far off, the cartel situation is truly something that is that disproportionate and bleak.

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          Yes. Improvement no matter how small is still improvement. More importantly, improving conditions can have sideways impacts on those big problems. Cartels (and Putin, using your Russia example) feed off desperation. Improving material conditions tends to make things harder for the bad guys, which is why the bad guys work so hard to make materials conditions worse (/wave MAGA). In reality, most problems are multi-faceted so we’d be fools not to see the big picture and do what we can where we can. The alternative, hyper focusing on the big problems, lets other problems grow which ultimately ends up feeding the big problem.

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            I don’t think we necessarily disagree on principle, we just disagree in our conclusions. I don’t think what I’m calling for is hyper fixation. The cartel issue by far the biggest and most pressing issue in the country to the point where it’s existential threat, and yet it is completely neglected at the cost of the common people. Again, I don’t have an issue with laws like this, you’re right that any improvement is better than nothing. However, it does highlight the fact the president is tone deaf. She’s been in office for 2 years now, and she has largely followed in the footsteps of her predecessor, AMLO, in going soft of cartels, which is a mistake costing the country dearly.

            You talk about improving material conditions makes things for the bad guys, but the bad guys here are not the government. Cartels directly worsen material conditions with their operations, they obviously don’t follow labor laws, and there’s nothing to counter their influence in the country. There’s shootouts in the streets that are akin to active warzones. The people who are saying I’m letting perfect be the enemy of good are delusional. This is like having a bear chewing on your leg in a national park while you scream in agony for a park ranger to help you, only for one to arrive and tell the good news that he’s revoking your parking ticket before leaving.

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              If there was an easy solution to the cartels someone would have done it already. Take obtainable wins.

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      I mean… I get your sentiment (and admittedly, I’m not really knowledgeable about the situation over there), but if the cartels’ influence is really as pervasive as you say… is there even anything that can be realistically done to address the problem directly? Has any candidate (even minor ones) proposed a plan to deal with them and they got messed with? Or is everyone just too disillusioned to even try?

      Genuinely asking, because the way you described it, it sounds even worse than the Mafia situation in the nineties in Italy, and that was really bleak.

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      the thing is, if i understand this correctly, taking the US approach to security (send in a lot of soldiers, hurt everyone in the way, find nothing, leave) doesn’t work. it just doesn’t make sense to send in more soldiers. ironically, giving up the war on drugs would probably do more to improve the situation than trying to win it; as it would put a permanent end to the violence and bloodshed. and i see her doing that.

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        The state of Sinaloa has seen a 400% increase in homicides in 2025, do you even begin to comprehend how insane that is? Keep in mind, Sinaloa already had one of the highest homicide rates in the world in 2024 where homicides increased by over 80%? Right now Sinaloa is one of the most dangerous places in the world, and the thing is that it’s not even the worst state in the country. Other states like Colima and Guanajuato are even worse. A good 6 out of the 10 most violent cities in the world are in Mexico. In the crazy parts of Mexico, things are really bad.

        Keep in mind, Mexican cartels don’t just mostly kill amongst each other like US gangs. The average people by a heavy price. They kill, torture, rape, extort, and corrupt everything. They effect every level of society. It’s not just drugs either, your thinking is way outdated. These cartels have expanded to also be the primary drivers behind human smuggling, human trafficking, arms trafficking, illegal mining, money laundering, counterfeit products, fuel theft (from both pipelines and distribution networks), agricultural farming (both legal and illegal), and the list goes on and on. This is on top of their usual protection rackets (read: extortion), drugs, and corruption.

        For someone who sits far away from all this violence it sounds for poetic to suggest that the Mexican government stop fighting the cartels and instead “focus on the underlying issues”, but for the people that live there? That’s nonsense. They don’t have anywhere near the stability to start addressing things in such way. Their lives are in genuine danger, and they need active protection. It would be better if the Mexican government can address the underlying causes and fight the cartels head on, but they’re currently barely doing either.

        I genuinely cannot fathom this mentality. Imagine being a Mexican living under the tyranny of the cartels and hearing your government say “sorry amigo, we’re not coming to protect your life that’s always in immanent danger, but hey, we did pass a law that will cut the work week by 8 hours, so cheer up eh? Hopefully this helps address the underlying causes and things will get better in 20 years, until then, adios.”

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    This answers the question I had, about what happens if a worker does in fact work longer than that.

    Employees can work overtime during the workweek, but no more than 12 hours total, with a maximum of four hours on any given day and no more than four overtime days per week.

    I wonder what the rules are around having a second job?

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      In most countries a second job is just not really allowed without your primary employer’s approval. Which they are very unlikely to give. It’s more a US thing for people who have problems making ends meet.

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        In Australia you can have as many jobs as you want, zero issues. id be appalled if I needed my employers permission, like a little kid asking their dad for permission.

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        It depends on the nature of the job.

        If you are a educated professional, then companies get pissy about how your second job might interfere with your primary work and erode some competitive advantage.

        If you are working hours in a fast food place, they don’t give a shit unless you fail to cover your shifts and never are available to pick up a shift for someone who can’t cover theirs.

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          Yes that would be great. Let AI take our jobs as long as we have money to spend.

          I’m kinda sick of my job anyway.

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        Many countries, sure. It would not be true for most countries. Not to mention freelance work, consulting gigs, or general self employment on the side.

        How common it is may be different than whether or not it is allowed.

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      There probably aren’t any, but it would likely show up in your performance.

      If you and your team mates all work 40 hours a week, but one of them spends an additional 20 hours at some other job you would see it in their performance.

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      The rules are as long as the schedules don’t overlap, you can get as many jobs as you like, really. The overtime thing is per job, not in total.

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    She needs to reform the US, next.

    Honestly, companies have legitimately taken advantage of productivity gains from technology over the last 30+years. We get more done individually now than we ever have before, so companies save millions on effectively having less staff, that’re also paid less due to sharp rises of inflation & CoL.

    We should be down to 24 hours a week IMO, because I myself piss away about half my week anyway trying to come up with shit to do! I know others are in similar boats.

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      I own a company, self employed and I set up my business to only need to do 20 billable hours a week. That covers my wage and insurance costs for myself. Obviously at that I’m not making profit as a business but as an employee I am making a good living

      It really opened my eyes to how much businesses fuck their employees and how much value i created for the 13 years i worked for others.

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        I think we should have a law that employees at a company have a right to a share of % of the profits.

        Would help incentives workers, too. You’re gonna work harder if you know your efforts actually pay off.

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          a share of % of the profits.

          Hollywood already has the playbook for that. You can have as little “profit” as you need to avoid payouts to people with profit share arrangements. Funny how executive compensation cuts into profits…

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          Yeah the biggest change for me is now going to work isn’t so bad, don’t get me wrong i don’t love every day, but when I’m still working at 8pm punching a 14 hour day I know it’s all going to support my family, not paying some cunt to sit in an office and get paid for “making the hard decisions”

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          even better: the workers should own the company. including its profits as well as its decisions.

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        In IT, some weeks are super busy, but as I’ve improved things at work (upgrading equipment, fixed old issues, automated some repeat processes, etc), there are other weeks it’s “slow” and I feel like I’m just sitting there. It used to be nonstop all the time when I was new, but the were a lot of unresolved problems or things the last guy didn’t know how to do. I probably couldn’t get away with 3x 8 hour days as stuff will always happen unexpectedly, but still. It would be less of a problem if I could go back to working remote at least partially. Going onsite everyday is also annoying AF.

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          Dang, yeah, that’s irritating. Would they at least allow you hybrid? I know someone who works remotely 2 days/wk which has been nice.

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      And then there is the rest of us fighting to add more hours to our day just to get through it to massively varied degrees as they are

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        Reducing your working hours would add so much valuable time to everyone’s lives. Of your workload is so great, time to hire additional help. Not your problem.

        You recall when covid first happened and so many and remote? Productivity shot up 17%according to several articles. Less “wasted time” with ‘water cooler’ talk. People could get coffee at home faster, quieter environments to focus in, etc. Insurance rates went down bc far less on the road, oil went down since demand dropped. It was ironically positive. It was great!

        But the commercial real estate problem began, and C suites started micro managing because they were told petiole will just slack off and all these made up problems were spread to get people back into the offices.

        It’s bullshit to keep us working so long every day. If you’re still overwhelmed with your workload, your company clearly is understaffed. I’ve learned, “the only reward for working hard is more work” and if you’re currently just managing to get it done, it’s seen as no extra help needed. “You got this”… Start letting stuff fall behind or putting it off, because you’ve got other stuff you prioritize. Call off sick at an inconvenient time so upper management sees the loss when you’re out. It’ll start to send signals that they in fact need help!

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          I don’t work an office job. I work in operations. I can’t reduce my workload it is what it is by the nature of my job. I’ve had to cut staff continually since covid. I worked everyday during it and no one gives a shit unless you were a healthcare worker at that time.

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    Mexico is amending it’s constitution and the US can’t even pass a budget to keep it’s fucking bridges from collapsing. Meanwhile USA calls Mexico a failed state lol.

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    Anybody upset about this needs to be upset with their employer. If you need to work over 12 hours a day everyday you’re being severely underpaid. Saying this as a guy that used to do it to survive. My boss would praise me and tell people everyone needed to be more like me while knowing damn well why I was doing what I was doing. Tried to be the empathetic hand while completely exploiting me.

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          I’ve been pro union for a long time, that’s true but why did you feel you needed to respond to me literally asking about someone’s specific and personal pathway to a better situation?

          Your comment is unappreciated as it is completely out of place

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        I did it the hard way. Job hopping! I’m in IT without a degree (I have certs now but didn’t when I started). I have years of experience because I took entry level positions but had gaps in my knowledge due to not having a formal education. I started finding jobs that I had 80% of the know how from previous employers specifically. The pay would always be low for what I was doing, but it was a trade off since I had things to learn. I had to look for companies that weren’t willing to pay top dollar for IT so they’d be willing to ignore my lack of experience on some things.

        After landing the job, I’d focus on that 20% specifically for resume bullet points. After 1 year (very important to stay for at least 1 year!), I’d evaluate. Sometimes I’d jump ship taking along with me any references, promotions (job titles are important folks), and certs I could along the way. Sometimes I’d stay longer than a year depending on what was happening. The pay was never right so I knew I wasn’t going to stay.

        Most of these places were small to medium sized, toxic, unprofessional, and had high attrition rates.

        After years of that, I started landing positions mostly based on the network I built of professional references. I have professional friends that help me out that are higher up on the latter and I have ones that I help / bring up with me that are below me on the latter.

        Being honest, this was not the easy way by far and I don’t even know if you could still do what I did.

        Today though, I have steady employment working for a large organization. My pay is good but not great. I’m not rich but I can make rent and have some left over for savings working only 40 hours a week. Really that’s all I ever wanted! I’m still working on my career but I’m happy I don’t have to do it while killing myself to not starve anymore!

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      Let’s pretend the Queen of England didn’t just finally fuck off or all the other female authoritarians/war criminals, let’s remove her agency and attribute any good she does to being a woman.

      It’s more sexist than the implication itself.

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        Margaret Thatcher was UK’s Reagan. Everything she didn’t ruin herself; she readied to be ruined later.

        It wasn’t because she was a woman. It was because she was a freaking neoliberal.

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        It’s also just really fucking annoying that this platitude comes up every time a headline is posted about a woman doing good, as if people are just incapable of thinking it through.

        Neither Clinton nor Harris would have supported this, and in fact, they’d have told their rotating villains to oppose it and claimed powerlessness, as Dems always do. (Which is, in part, why they lost their elections.)

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        I personally think they care way more about losing money and influence than hating women.

        The misogyny is just a side gig.

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    Hopefully, Mexico will actually achieve the American Dream, rather than being dragged into a nightmare by their capitalists.