• rumba@lemmy.zip
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    Tire pressuse sensors broadcast unique ID’s

    we’re so cooked :)

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        Don’t worry ur tpms ids aren’t useful for tracking. Their not like exclusive to the car and in some data base, and not as unique as u may think. Their randomly generated either 10 digit or hex ID that u program ur cars tpms module to read. U can replace the sensors and run another randomly generated id and program module to see that as it’s, or u can reprogram a sensor (or a blank) to have the existing ID. There is no real useful way to track anybody with it, the range is so shit on them and you would have had to already have scanned the sensor IDs on the car to know them, which surprise u have a licence plate and shit their already gonna have all ur info at that point. If ur getting tracked in a car, I promise you it will never be from the TPMS lol

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    Deflock=where they are… Start mob grouping the cameras.

    Has anyone here tried caulking a super strong magnet on to one of the poles? They make squeeze caulk that can do multi surface.

    Could also just start taking them out? Just start throwing rocks at them and using a hammer against the boxes. Spray painting the cameras. Idk, there’s things people can do.

    Make a program that’s constantly making it seem like there’s ghost devices and overload the list and it does it so much they can’t use it. Ummmmm… Let’s get creative.

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      A magnet alone wouldn’t do anything. You’d need an active jammer, which would be illegal. Don’t F with the FCC :)

      Put a dab of caulk on the end of a dowel and touch the lens. That would at worst be vandalism, I imagine.

      The messiest part would be not getting caught on one of the cameras before, during or after doing the deed.

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        The messiest part would be not getting caught on one of the cameras before, during or after doing the deed.

        R. C. Cars operated by extenders to the antennas, you could have someone drive one around to take focus off of them and have a printout of a human face in high detail.

        You have full arm gloves on and you use contacts and a wig just in case. Could also do a full body gorilla suit with contacts in and have a clip on device near your hands that emits a bleach mist so your finger prints aren’t there. Like spider man’s cartridges but for bleach misting.

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          Yeah, totally possible to do in an anonymous style, you just need to consider anonymous transport; they have cameras leading up to and away from most places. If they really got their nickers in a wad, they’d ask local businesses and ring cameras for footage. Trying to do something like this is more akin to planning a heist with all the surveillance.

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            Someone should make a mass loader of like 10,000 bluetooth devices that don’t exist, pre-generated and loaded ready to go and when they scan your device it auto loads 10,000 devices and it overloads the scanner and crashes. Bonus points if the generator is built-in to the device to re-use on other flock cameras after the first hit :P

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              I’ve seen some tech that searches out hot mirros and blasts them with an intense IR laser to burn out the sensors. Of course by then, they already have seen your plate.

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    Burned into my mind is the reaction to my rural town’s mayor when Flock was brought up:

    “Have you seen the stop signs around here? Do you think those cameras will last any longer?”

    Many of the local stop signs have at least one bullet hole in them. Armored mailboxes are commonplace. They want to put up something in the sticks that it isn’t morally ambiguous to destroy?

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        They aren’t shooting at them. It used to be a popular thing for teenagers to whack mailboxes from moving cars using baseball bats or similar implements. It was a bigger problem ~20 years ago.

        Of course now you’re likely to break your hand/arm/bat if you try it. I’ve seen several methods used to prevent damage to mailboxes, including cages made from rebar, stacks of mobile home rims with a mailbox in the center, mailboxes made from drill pipe, the mailbox at my house is made from 1/4" thick steel plate and the post it is mounted to is a piece of I-beam. It’s bonkers. I think you could hit it with a semi truck and the truck would lose. I didn’t build it, it was there when I bought the house.

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            Usually no

            We tend to put our houses in the center of our properties and often don’t have any front-yard fencing. Making the mail carriers walk all the way up to every house would be prohibitatively time consuming. Without a fence, we need to put the letterbox on a post, so we use a mailbox.

            You don’t even have to be all that rural. If you have a single-family unattached home that wasn’t built in a developer plan, you’ll end up with a mailbox on a post at the road to one side of your driveway. Unless a specific location has a problem with theft, we don’t even have a locking system.

            In the newer planned neighborhoods, they’ll set up cluster mailboxes.

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            ⚠️ WARNING: P.U.I ⚠️

            Letterboxes are seen in cities sometimes, but in the middle of nowhere, everyone has a mailbox by the road. Sometimes they are clustered together, a bunch of boxes in the same place so the mail carrier doesn’t have to drive a mile down some unpaved dead end road.

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            I like to decorate mine! Our previous one rusted out so I painted the numbers onto our new one (instead of using stickers) and then painted gold ginko leaves all over it with some bugs hiding around them.

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        Mine is made from 14g steel. Someone took out my last 2. Even threw eggs and canned foods at it a few times. No clue who I pissed off. Changed out the box, posted on facebook we upgraded it and installed a hidden camera, and they stopped. Funny thing is the post is 3in pvc pipe painted to kinda look like iron (I had to span 4 feet cause the box has to set over an asphalt ditch).

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    Is a webpage a “tool”?

    I keep hearing from US friends that their best tool was getting involved and having Flock banned from their counties and cities.

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      But, are they only banning Flock (which is a good step), or are they banning all ALPR installs? Can they even ban them on private property? A lot of what I see on deflock.org near me isn’t on the streets (though some is), most of them are actually looking at parking lots, many of big box stores like Lowes, random strip malls and shopping centers, a church…

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    I don’t want a tool to avoid Flock cameras. I want a tool that uses my Bluetooth to turn Flock cameras into bricks.

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      Need to figure out a small scale, cheap, EMP device that can be set off to fry the cameras and sensors, but nothing else that is around.

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      If you want a tool that turns Flock cameras into bricks, all you need is a brick.

      … Or wire cutters, or a big hammer, or an angle grinder, or a drill, or a large rock, or a can of spray paint, etc, etc, etc. They’re not terribly resilient against physical damage.

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        I’ve been thinking of buying a slingshot and some paintballs. For another, completely irrelevant purpose though, obviously.

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          Remember to mask up when you’re going out playing with paintballs – for covid safety! Wear sunglasses, too – you don’t want eye damage from the bright sunlight.

          Oh, and perhaps most importantly, leave your phone at home. Wouldn’t want to accidentally hit your phone with a paintball, would you?

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          problem is the camera sees you offing it. unless you bloc up way away, and not near your own stuff.

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      I would think that a simple laser-pointer pointed at the camera would be enough to damage the sensor?

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        Lasers would be quite risky. Anything that powerful would also instantly obliterate peoples’ vision if there’s a reflection and it gets them in the eye.

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        You’ll need around a 1-watt green (532nm) laser pointer. That’s gonna run you about $500 and they’re kinda dangerous.

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    If there’s a camera on a roadway they can do ALPR. I’m not saying they do, I’m saying it’s highly possible because cameras have gotten so much better. And the APIs to do the ALPR are getting cheaper.

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    just walking a mile down a road i haven’t been down in years, i spotted two of them. there’s been absolutely no local coverage about it… and scanning local municipal and town meeting minutes for the last several years–not one mention of them.

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      They have a whole division for pushing HOA’s to partner with them and “keep the places you call home safe.” So it’s not even just Governments you need to wonder about, HOA’s can just install them. So if you can’t find anything in Government documents, it’s entirely possible a nearby HOA did it.

      Flock Safety’s HOA security cameras help deter and solve crime, protect residents, and build trust with 24/7 tech that works with law enforcement to keep your neighborhood safe and connected.

      Optional law enforcement access gives your board confidence with faster response times and alerts for known threats—while keeping full control in your community’s hands

      Flock Safety’s solar-powered, LTE-connected neighborhood camera solutions install anywhere—no wiring, no utility bills, no IT headaches. We handle setup, maintenance, and support.

      That’s some of the sales pitch on their site about why HOA’s should get them.

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        they were on a street that is also carries state and u.s. highway designation, just past the municipal boundary. small town here, there literally are no ‘subdivisions’ or hoa anywhere around.

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      Small little ruralish tourist town, we got em at Lowe’s and Walmart, and 2 in one of the highest traffic areas. Thinking about seeing to sign for the meth heads letting them know there’s valuable metal (gold) in dem hills cameras

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      Couldn’t I just run for president and abuse my “power” like Trump, but instead of doing lots of bad I could do good? Id start by making all these executive orders to raise wealth taxes, ban invasive technologies, limit social media influence, or big tech’s reach into buying out politicians, etc…

      Think Robin Hood but on a presidential scale.

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        You could try.

        My wager is you’d be assassinated, but for a glorious and short time you’d be the most successful American president in history. There’s a reason why Congress term-limited presidents after FDR. People want presidents that actually do good shit. It’s just that we never get a choice between two good people ever.

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          Yeah, seeing how they wouldn’t offer secret service to RFK Jr when he ran for the short time, I’d certainly be SOL. I’d imagine I get the ol’ Russian “threw myself out the window” treatment or some other suicide thing…

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      Depending on the route i take, there are up to 21 Flock cameras on my way to work. Its only like 5.5 miles.

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    I think we need to start holding paintball battles around Flock cameras. Just to provide the surveillance techs with some entertainment, of course.

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      Paintball battles?

      Why paint?

      Why battles?

      Just get a decent hunting rifle and blast the damn thing from beyond its visual range